VSH earnings / call
VSH Q3 2026 earnings call transcript, November 4, 2026
Vishay Intertechnology Q3 2026 Earnings Call
Key takeaways from this call : results vs expectations, guidance, what analysts asked
- Management 32%
- Joel Smejkal 24%
- Joel Smickel 9%
- Peter Henrici 5%
- Joel Smacol 1%
Management
Joel Smejkal
Chief Executive Officer, President and Director
12 min
Joel Smickel
President and Chief Executive Officer
4 min
Peter Henrici
Executive Vice President - Corporate Development
2 min
Joel Smacol
Management
<1 min
Dave
Management
<1 min
Analysts · 5
Christopher Glenn
Oppenheimer
2 min
David Williams
Needham & Company
2 min
Will Stein
Truist Securities
<1 min
Ruplu Bhattacharya
BofA Securities
3 min
Melissa Fairbanks
Raymond James
5 min
Transcribed automatically by Lician from the company's public webcast; it can contain errors and speaker names are best effort.
- Prepared remarks2:43
- Operator
Good day and thank you for standing by. Welcome to the VSH Intertechnology Q3 2026 earnings call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode.
After the speaker's presentation, there will be a question and answer session. To ask a question during the session, you will need to press star 11 on your telephone. You will then hear an automated message advising your hand is raised. To withdraw your question, please press star 11 again. Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. I would now like to hand the conference over to your first speaker today, Peter Henricci. Head of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.
- Peter HenriciExecutive Vice President - Corporate Development
Thank you, Ari.
Good morning and welcome to VSH Intertechnology's third quarter 2026 earnings conference call. I am joined today by Joel Smekal, our president and chief executive officer, and by Dave McConnell, our chief financial officer. This morning, we reported results for our third quarter 2026. A copy of our earnings release is available in the investor relations section of our website at ir.vshea.com. This call is being broadcast live over the web and can be accessed through our website. In addition, today's call is being recorded and will be available via replay on our website. During the call, we will refer to a slide presentation, which we also posted on ir.vshea.com. You should be aware that during today's conference call, we will be making certain forward-looking statements that discuss future events and performance. These statements are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ from before. For a discussion of factors that could cause results to differ, please see today's press release and VSH's Form 10-K and Form 10-Q filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. We are including information in our press release and on this conference call on various GAAP and non-GAAP measures. We have included a four GAAP measures. to non-GAAP reconciliation in our press release and in the presentation posted on IR.VSH.com, which we believe will be useful when comparing our GAAP and non-GAAP results. We use non-GAAP measures because we believe they provide useful information about the operating performance of our businesses and should be considered by investors in conjunction with GAAP measures.
Now, I turn the call over to President and Chief Executive Officer, Joel Smickel.
- Joel SmejkalChief Executive Officer, President and Director
Thank you, Peter.
Thank you everyone for joining the Q3 2026 earnings call this morning. I'll start the call with the review of our third quarter performance and Dave will take you through a detailed review of our financial results for the quarter and our guidance for the fourth quarter. 2026. After that, I'll update you on the strategic levers we are pulling to drive growth and profitability, and then we'd be happy to answer any of your questions. For the third quarter, we are reporting revenue of $979 million, exceeding the top end of our guidance range, $945 million to $975 million. Revenue grew 7% compared to the review of our financial results. Adjusted revenue reported for the second quarter, and 24% year-over-year. Demand remained robust among industrial, automotive, aerospace defense, and AI customers. At $979 million, we have set a record with the highest quarterly revenue in VSH's history. All product technologies contributed to this new revenue high during a season. Seasonal Q3. Our passive product lines gave an extra boost. Passives were 52% of quarterly sales. As a hybrid supplier of discrete semis and passive components, VSH is uniquely positioned to sell more technologies across all market segments. Bookings remained robust. Increased 15% to reach a quarter-end backlog of $2.2 billion. For 6.6 months. Book-to-bill for Q3 was 1.29 with semiconductors and 1.28. Excuse me. Book-to-bill was 1.29 overall with semis at 1.28 and passives at 1.31. Q3 bookings for resistors were at record highs while the other technologies continued with strong bookings. Customers are driven to place larger
quantity orders with longer visibility. With the overall market supply tight for high demand semis and passives, more customers in all regions placed longer term orders with extended forecast. In some cases up to 18 months to ensure supply through 2027. End market consumption continues to grow while the channels of OEM, distribution, and EMS want to replenish inventories, this is challenging for them. In response to these industry dynamics, we continue our focus on execution. Serving our customers well and delivering on our promise that VSH 3.0 is a different company. We're a reliable supplier positioning with incremental capacity to scale with their growth requirements while maintaining competitive lead times. Customers recommend the capacity readiness business approach which the VSH 3.0 transformation has put into place. Customers in all regions give us feedback that we are not on their list as a risk supplier in this cycle. They say in past up cycles VSH was first to be on the risk supplier list. Everyone at VSH today works very hard to support the customers with timely product delivery. They are creative and flexible when customer escalations arise. As an example, Q3 compared to last year's Q3, customers have increased consumption of VSH units through our distribution channel by 57%. Under VSH 2.0, without the incremental capacity and the distributor inventory strategy, customer consumption would have been generally
flowed. Our strategy to expand part number count and to place deeper inventory on the distributor's shelves, staging inventory ahead of the upcycle under VSH 3.0 was paramount. With inventory on the shelves and distributors, VSH POS has grown significantly as parts are available to more customers and that had VSH on their bill of materials. Previously underserved customers are now not only consuming available inventory, but expanding their product demand with us. High growth applications in industrial and AI power management are attracting new customers to our portfolio for passives and semiconductors. In short, we're doing a great job of increasing our customer count and our part number count, shifting more volume to more customers. And leveraging more of our product portfolio. We have gained market share and keep expanding capacity to hold these gains and grow further. Let's turn to slide three to review the Q3 revenue, starting with revenue by end market. While each of our high growth end markets grew in the third quarter, industrial maintained its dominance. Industrial revenue increased 12% versus Q2 and 43% versus prior year. You may remember that we saw the beginning of the industrial market upturn toward the end of 2024 due to our growing customer applications for high voltage capacitors. The Americas posted strong growth with new projects supporting power management, smart grid, industrial automation ramping to
mass production. We continue to see record demand levels for polymer capacitors associated with AI server applications. In Asia, demand remains strong for power supplies, AI power customers, and high voltage DC with a modest contribution from smart grid projects. The number of our technologies being designed into power management continues to expand. Customers increase increasingly design in multiple passive components within their same power architectures, including current sense resistors, power resistors, high voltage capacitors, inductors and magnetics, and protection devices. This is contributing to increased part count on our customer bill of materials for industrial and AI server power. Customers continue to place orders for smart grid projects as we want another smart grid infrastructure program in the Americas. This one is related to Canadian data center bills and EV adoption. In automotive, revenue grew 4% quarter over quarter and 7% versus prior year. As customers began ramping new model year programs and China exports grew. Customers placed orders to secure delivery against forecast, including several EMS and OEM customers which increased order coverage. for 2027 programs. Aerospace defense revenue increased 4% versus the quarter and 23% versus last year, reflecting higher consumption levels by defense contractors in the U.S. and Europe as they continue to replenish components supporting funded weapons programs. Bookings growth in the Americas was robust, resulting in a booked a bill of 1.64 at quarter end.
Customers quickly moved their position and their backlogs as Department of Defense finalized contracts with the primes. Health care revenue increased 1% versus Q2 and 13% versus prior year. In the Americas, customer seasonality dampened demand in bookings, while in Europe and Asia, demand for new portable devices drove volume gains. Our ongoing initiative... to expand relationships with long-standing medical customers by leveraging the breadth of our portfolio continues to work. Bookings in Europe reached a new record as a customer added inductors to the Bill of Materials. In Asia, we expanded business with EMS customers concerned about tightening supply for inductors and resistors. In the other category, revenue was flat quarter over... ...reflecting increases in power supply and telecom offset by declines in consumer and PCs. Year-over-year, revenue grew 23%. With respect to demand for AI service and server power, volume grew on higher consumption and market share gains. Customers continue to add Bechet passive technologies to AI power management solutions. With the percent of passive components increasing as industrial and AI topologies move to higher voltages, and as AI requirements for higher power density, efficiency, heat dissipation, higher switching frequencies, and precision sensing drive more Bechet passive usage. In telecom, customers supporting optical communication network switches, both 800 gigabits and...
1.6 terabits drove significant volume increase. Let's turn to slide 4 for review of revenue by channel. Revenue increased in the quarter, and in each channel, led by distribution, which increased 9% quarter over quarter, and 30% year over year, and accounted for 76% of the total revenue growth. Distribution volume grew on strong demand for industrial, aerospace, and AI customers. Distribution inventory was flat at 18 weeks, and POS increased 5% quarter over quarter, and 26% year over year, with growth in each region. Bookings increased as distribution partners tried to take proactive steps to replenish inventory and pull in backlogs. Driven by lead time extensions and component price increases, along with demand momentum. OEM revenue was up 3% quarter over quarter and 14% year over year, reflecting solid demand from industrial automotive and healthcare customers. EMS revenue increased 6% quarter over quarter and 27% year over year, reflecting ongoing industrial aerospace defense and automotive program. While programs using more VSH part numbers continued to fall at EMS. Orders from EMS customers reached an all-time high in the quarter. We see this as a vote of confidence in our VSH 3.0 approach by offering competitive lead times as EMS customers support increasing demand and try to have some inventory. of critical components. Slide five is regions. Turn to our geographical mix on this slide. Asia continued to dominate revenue growth as strong demand for industrial power and AI servers, networks, and related infrastructure drove sales growth. Revenue in the Americas grew 6% and 31% year over year on record level consumption from
industrial and aerospace customers, especially for passives. Before turning the call over to Dave, I want to thank the VSH employees and our reps for their hard work as we continue to execute the VSH 3.0 growth strategy. From all their hard work, we set an all-time high in revenue for Q3. Through their dedication to intensify customer engagements,
- DaveManagement
we are supporting more customers, increasing our part count and product technologies, and proving to our customers that we are a reliable supplier. The VSH 3.0 team is focused on execution, driving revenue growth, and gross margin expansion. Dave, I'll hand the call to you.
- Management
Thanks, Joel, and good morning, everyone. Let's start the review of the third quarter results with the highlights on slide seven. Sorry, slide six. Third quarter revenue was $979 million, exceeding our guidance range and increasing sequentially 10.2% on a gap basis and 6.6% on an adjusted basis, driven by strong volume growth of 5% and an increase in average selling prices of 2%. Compared to the third quarter of 2025, revenue increased 24%, driven primarily by a 20% increase in volume. And a 4% increase in average selling prices. Moving on to the next slide, presenting the income statement highlights. Gross profit was $249 million, delivering a gross margin of 25.5%, exceeding our guidance, and representing an over 200 basis points increase versus the prior quarter. Higher volumes and improved pricing conditions drove margin expansion, helping to offset ongoing inflation. Cost pressures. Depreciation expense was $56 million, slightly higher than our guidance, due to accelerated depreciation on a transition of manufactured commodity product to buy-resale. SG&A expenses were $157 million, an increase versus the second quarter, but in line with our guidance. Operating margin was 9.4%, compared to $5. 0.8% on an adjusted basis in the second quarter, and 2.4% in the third quarter of 2025. EBITDA for the quarter was $146 million, for an EBITDA margin of 14.9%, up from 11.4% in the second quarter. Our GAAP effective tax rate is improving as profitability increases, but remains elevated as items such as US taxation of foreign earnings and repatriation.
- Management
taxes continue to have a disproportionate impact on the effective tax rate. The Q3 effective tax rate of 32.4% came in below our guidance range as pre-tax earnings exceeded expectations. Earnings per share was $0.37 with no non-GAAP adjustments compared to $0.19 per share in quarter two and adjusted earnings per share of $0.04 in the third quarter. for 2025. Moving on to slide eight, provides a summary table detailing revenue, gross margin and book to bill ratios across our reportable segments for quick reference. All reportable segments delivered revenue growth quarter over quarter and versus prior year. Turning to slide nine, in the third quarter, our cash conversion cycle improved to 106 days from 110 days in quarter two, in part due to increased sales volume and our continued disciplined working capital management. DSO improved from 38 days in quarter two to 35 days primarily due to higher revenues and the application of credits for tariff refunds. Inventory days outstanding improved to 101 days due to increased sales volume. Overall inventory remains relatively flat. Continuing to slide 10. You can see we generated 146 million in operating cash for the third quarter. Free cash flow for the quarter was 98 million. Reflecting the increased operating income compared to 10 million in the second quarter. We continue to deploy cash for capacity expansion projects. Total capex for the quarter is roughly 48 million. Slightly lower than expectations due to extended lead times on equipment deliveries and installation.
- Management
Particularly at our new 12 inch wafer fab in Germany. On a trailing 12 month basis capital intensity was 9.8% which is a decrease from the 10.8% in the prior year. Stockholder returns for the third quarter consisted of our $15.3 million quarterly dividend. We did not repurchase any shares during the quarter. At the end of the quarter our global cash and short term investment balance. was $1.1 billion. We used approximately $300 million of the proceeds from our June public stock offering to repay the outstanding balance on the revolver. Our cash and revolver capacity will be used to support an acceleration of our growth initiatives. At the end of the quarter the full amount of the revolving credit facilities are accessible at the current EBITDA levels. Okay turning to slide 11 and the guidance. For the fourth quarter of 2026 revenues are available at the end of the quarter of 2026 revenues. They're expected to be 990 million plus or minus 15 million. Our guidance includes the impact of year-end holiday closures. Gross margin is expected to be in the range of 26.0% plus or minus 50 basis points. Exceeding our goal of exiting the year at 24% quarterly gross margin by 200 basis points. Depreciation expense is expected to be approximately 54 million for the fourth quarter. SG&A expenses are expected to be approximately $54 million for the fourth quarter. SG&A expenses are expected to be approximately
- Management
$157 million plus or minus $3 million. Interest expense is expected to be approximately $6 million for the fourth quarter. Our GAAP effective tax rate remains elevated at these levels of pre-tax income or loss. We expect the effective tax rate to become more predictable and in the range of our historical average as earnings grow. For the fourth quarter 26, we expect the effective tax rate to be between 30 and 35%. CapEx for the full year is now expected to be in the range of 350 to 400 million due to extending lead times on equipment deliveries and installation. During the fourth quarter, we plan to significantly reduce our accounts receivable securization program. Due to this and our ongoing capacity expansion plan, we expect free cash for the full year 26 to be close to break even. I'll turn the call back to Joel.
- Joel SmickelPresident and Chief Executive Officer
All right. Thank you, Dave. Let's turn to slide 12 for a review of the strategic levers. VSH 3.0 is pulling to drive revenue growth, expand gross margins, and enhance returns. Starting with capacity expansion, we have invested $253 million through Q3 in our facilities, nearly all of which was spent on incremental capacity. We had planned to spend between $400 and $400. million and $440 million in 2026, with about half of that amount earmarked for our 12-inch FAB in Germany. Some spending has been pushed into 2027. Nevertheless, at our 12-inch FAB in Germany, we continued equipment installation in the third quarter and did start up 90% of the equipment. Some equipment is next for system hookup in Q4-26.
Thank you very much.
We are preparing to start running engineering wafers in early 27. We are planning to start non-automotive part number production in the second half of 2027. At Newport, we successfully completed three additional automotive customer audits with high grades of A. Wafer output is increasing around 10% per quarter as we receive more customer program approvals, which allow us to transfer wafer loading from Itseho 8 to Newport. To support our AI customer demand, we have increased the fab loading at Korean foundries with wafer shipments at the end of Q3 to support Q4 26 customer deliveries. We plan to further increase fab loading during Q4 and in the first half of 2027. On the passive side, automotive customer qualifications at our La Laguna and Juarez facilities are progressing well. In Japan, we have increased capacity of our polymer tantalum capacitor production with much further expansion of capacity underway in La Laguna. We continue to qualify subcontractors during the quarter, adding outsourced commercial grade diodes and resistors to our portfolio. In Q3 27, we added over 17,000 SKUs with our distributors as available to sell products. In terms of innovation and new product development, we continue to execute on our silicon carbide strategy, releasing MOSFETs and diodes, which range from 650 volt to 1700 volt. In Newport, we successfully completed the conversion of the silicon carbide.
Manufacturing line to 8-inch engineering wafers. Across the VSH business units, there are many new projects with all technologies in R&D to support industrial AI power and automotive roadmaps. The electronica component show is in Germany, Munich, Germany next week. We will continue to showcase and promote the VSH solutions and reference designs. which support at least 80% of the products on the board in power applications. In closing, VSH reached a record revenue level for the third quarter, propelled by our hybrid footprint of discrete semiconductors and passives, which enabled 30% growth in distribution year over year. VSH 3.0 is delivering results which provide clear evidence that our growth and margin expansion strategy, our customer engagement focus, and our business-minded approach works. We are positioning well to take full advantage of this market upcycle and the long-term demand trends, particularly as increasing power requirements and high-voltage drive demand for all technologies. We are pushing hard to supply our customer
- Q&A29:11
- Joel SmickelPresident and Chief Executive Officer
while maintaining competitive lead times and to drive sequential revenue growth for this 12-week quarter in Q4. Ari will now open up the call for questions.
- Operator
Thank you. At this time, we will conduct the question and answer session. As a reminder, to ask a question, you will need to press star 11 on your telephone and wait for your name to be announced. To withdraw your question,
please press star 11 again. Our first question comes from the line of Christopher Glenn of Oppenheimer. Your line is now open. Thanks. Good morning, everyone, and congrats on the results. Nice showcase for 3.0. Curious about what you're seeing in terms of the current pace of design wins.
Question · Oppenheimer
Christopher GlennAnalyst · OppenheimerYou know, kind of at the leading end of your go-to-market upgrades, just kind of wind rates, what's rolling in, and pipeline and such ahead of, you know, actual wind rates. Okay. Power. Industrial power is one of the leading design in activities. We see a lot of high-voltage requests, capacitors, resistors, circuit protection. MOSFETs, diodes, all of the technologies with high-power industrials. The design activity continues to be very strong. We have a CRM, a new CRM in the company, which is the opportunity management. Engineers, FAEs, sales reps are ending their design, so the design activity is good in industrial. AI, we continue to meet with the AI chipset companies to get more. Passives, MOSFETs, and diodes on their bill of materials, so we're gaining there, not to put any specific numbers on it at this point, but we are gaining. We see it in the orders that we're receiving in Asia for AI through EMS customers. Automotive continues to be a strong part of our business, with strong design in it as well, and then military defense and medical. So I would say design activity is strong. We haven't seen any slowdown. In new programs, because of the trending to higher voltages and greater efficiencies and precision.
- Management
Great.
- Management
Thanks for that.
- Management
Appreciate the global comment. Wanted to, you know, auto's a little different, I think, you know, just in terms of, like, vehicle production, not really a growth sector. I know there's content and share aspects, but, you know, all your other verticals really have. Distinctive long-term growth drivers. So, in auto, you know, you talked about new model years. Suggest maybe some stocking going on. You've had a great year in auto. Would we think that auto would be one area that probably levels off for you, you know, within the next quarter or two? Well, you mentioned it right. The car count seems to be generally flat, but the new program launches for EVs. Traction inverters, ADAS, power management in the vehicle, DC to DC. We continue to see more and more demand for our products. Quite happy with the growth in resistors in automotive. Capacitor opportunities with polymer tantalum coming. Film capacitors as well with DC link. So across capacitors, always inductors, IHLP products is there. So automotive, because of the increasing electronic content, we see it flat next quarter. It's a 12-week quarter. They are trying to build inventory versus just having products be delivered for consumption. Not a lot of success in building inventory. Most of what we ship is in programs. But we continue to see automotive flat for the next quarter. But continuing to move forward. Move up with more content. We like the release of these new EV programs. Because VSH has strong positions there.
- Management
Okay, great. Thanks. I'll jump back in queue.
- Management
Thanks, Chris.
- Operator
Our next question comes from the line of David Williams of Needham. Your line is now open.
Question · Needham & Company
David WilliamsAnalyst · Needham & CompanyHey, good morning, everyone. And let me also add my congratulations on the really solid results. Thank you. Maybe first, Joel, are you seeing any scenario maybe develop where the critical components are in shortage and you've got some inventory building, maybe around some of the adjacent components? Just trying to understand how you're seeing that demand environment. And could we get into another scenario where it's the golden screw effect that could potentially be an issue down the road? We hear about the shortages of PCBs in some cases, more in AI, but here somewhat in automotive. Hasn't been a showstopper. When we talk to our distributors, EMS customers, and OEM across all regions, they say, you know, we'd like to build stock, we'd like to have inventory, but it's a challenge because parts are being consumed. We look at the POS that goes through distribution. With the number of components 57% up year on year, that's a POS number. That's the consumption of VSH products. Distributors would like to put more on the shelf. They haven't been able to restock. You've seen our weeks of inventory be 18 weeks now, two quarters in a row. We shipped much more POS, POA, to the distributors in the quarter versus Q2, but it went out the door. So we watched for double order. We can't say we can say it has any significance at this point. Looking for shortages that might impact and the golden screw, we continue to have customers say ship. We'll take the product, just ship it. So we're watching the inventory, David. I haven't really seen that anybody can build significant inventory yet.
- Management
Just from the pricing environment, I know you're holding the pricing really to just inflation here, but just curious if you're seeing anything maybe irrational from your competitors that's maybe helping lift your share opportunities and just kind of given where EMS is reaching an all-time high in bookings, it feels like you certainly are seeing the share gains there. But just kind of curious how the pricing environment is developing and how that's helping you gain share. Thanks. Okay, we started with... Price increases in the first quarter this year and with all of the technologies of VSH, 17 business units, it hasn't been all at once. So we've seen price increases each quarter. And there's still some new price increases coming in the fourth quarter. Competition is doing the same thing. Everybody has the metal impact. So we pass it along. Our competitors seem to be passing it along. The customers understand it. They don't like it. But they understand that... The costs are there. They also understand that the demand for the components is high. And they see VSH's new strategy as channel management. We look at the customers that are providing us better margins. And we're loading the factories to be able to support the higher margin customers. I think you see that in how our gross margin moved in Q3 versus the guide. And how the margin turned out in Q3 versus Q2. So we're actively managing our business. We're passing on price increases. EMS and others are looking at supply assurance as the number one priority.
- Management
Where I think we're positioning well here. The EMS highlights all-time high in orders. EMS is really focused on lead time. You've got to have competitive lead time first. We have that. So then the pricing, if it's reasonable, you gain the order, you gain the share. And I think that's what we're seeing.
- Management
Thanks so much.
- Management
It's great to see the strategy really working here, Joel. So congratulations on that. And looking forward to seeing your continued success. Thank you.
- Management
Thanks, David.
- Operator
Our next question comes from the line of Will Stein of Truist. Your line is now open.
Question · Truist Securities
Will SteinAnalyst · Truist SecuritiesGreat. Thank you for taking my questions. Congrats on the great results and outlook. Joel, for investors trying to distinguish between the cyclical strength that we know is present today and the structural improvements from VSH 3.0, what can you tell us to help us quantify the contribution from each of those?
- Management
Structural improvements is a big step here. When we look at gaining customer count, gaining share. Putting more products on the customer bill of materials. Those are three big things. The comments that we're receiving from customers, very openly, one of our sales leaders went to a customer in Asia and they said, what are you doing here? And he said, what do you mean? He goes, you're not on my risk supplier list. Why are you here? Well, we're here to support you further, Mr. Customer. We're here to show that VSH's got competitive lead time. I think that's a great story of how the structural change of VSH is resonating across all regions. Customers love VSH's product. When you can deliver the product and you can continue to bring new technologies, the customer wants to bring you into deeper discussions into their technology roadmap. So I think a lot of this growth is structural change. We're enjoying the cyclic. of the market and the many market segments that are up. But a majority of this is the change of VSH's operating approach in 3.0. That's helpful. Thank you. The other question I had was also related to the VSH 3.0 progress. I think there's a project that we've been waiting to hear about that I think relates to back-end assembly of semiconductors and was hoping we could get some update on those plans. Great. Back-end is an important strategy in our margin improvement. We've mentioned in the past we have our own back-ends that finish product for us after the wafers come from the fab, but we also use a high number of subcontractors.
- Management
So the back-end strategy is moving quickly. Don't have anything to announce at this moment. It's moving at an excellent pace. We have it as a primary margin improvement initiative, so we hope by the end of the year, we hope to be announcing something. It's moving quickly.
- Management
Thanks, Tim.
- Management
Yeah, that helps.
- Management
Thanks, and congrats again.
- Management
Thank you. Thank you.
- Operator
Our next question comes from the line of Ruplu Bhattacharya of Bank of America, Merrill Lynch. Your line is now open.
Question · BofA Securities
Ruplu BhattacharyaAnalyst · BofA SecuritiesHi, thanks for taking my questions. Joel, can you give us an update on the qualification process you had with external foundries? How much of the production is now outsourced to foundries? And I think you said AI related to the Korean foundries. How much is the total AI revenue this year that you're expecting? And I have a follow-up. Outsourcing, if we just speak about the wafer foundries, it's 35% of our wafer build, 35%. We, as I mentioned, Newport, we're loading another 10%. So, let's see. Every quarter to the wafer build there. We're shifting, as we get programs from automotive quals, we're shifting the load from Itseho 8 to Newport, and then we're able to use Itseho, which is a more flexible fab, it's kind of the umbrella fab, to deliver products to all market segments. Ruplu, the second part of your question was? It was on AI. AI. AI revenue, last year we were around $100 million. This year we keep pushing to be near $200 is what our push is. Okay, got it. Just to follow up on the moves in terms of the footprint, beyond the back-end packaging, when you look at the fabs that Vishay has, do you see any scope or is there a plan? to move some of the fabs from high-cost geographies to low-cost geographies, and can you give us an update on your CapEx cadence over the next couple of years? Always looking at efficiencies in manufacturing and cost. So when you think about back-end in particular, the outsource fabs, many, which may only be building one package.
- Management
We need to bring this into a campus, into a VSHE campus, so we can maximize the capacity we're going to put in that campus across a lot of different products and reduce costs, reduce the margin we pay for the subcon and have this in-house. We'll take similar looks at our own locations internally. There will always be a move for expansion of product because we need more capacity. We've... We've got a 12-inch fab coming which is going to bring us a lot of wafer volume and we need large-scale back-end. So the back-end will be supporting the 12-inch. We'll be subcon moving into VSH's back-end. We'll be also looking at our own locations and maximizing our margins on those products. All right, let me take the CapEx one. Yeah, go ahead with the CapEx. So Rupelo, on the CapEx, good question. So we'll have more for you on the next call obviously related to 2017. As we've been discussing, the capital intensity should certainly drop because our revenues are going up. We don't have two fabs at the same time we're building. That being said, back-end location may require some CapEx. Finishing the 12-inch fab completely, filling it will require CapEx. But what's going to be different is we're going to have government subsidies most likely on both those projects. So we may have a net CapEx that's much lower than our current. If I can just squeeze one more in. Joel, you've been working with distribution to add a lot of your SKUs into distribution. How do you see the total inventory of VSH products in distribution? Is there more scope for selling into distribution? Do you see distributors pulling more inventory as in market demand improves? Any thoughts on just overall inventory?
- Management
VSH products in distribution.
- Management
Thank you so much.
Question · BofA Securities
Ruplu BhattacharyaAnalyst · BofA SecuritiesYeah, we continue to drive the distributor strategy with great intensity. We're at 18 weeks of inventory. It was pretty flat. That's a global number. The Asia number, Dave, what do you have? Down to 12. 12 weeks of inventory in Asia. It's low. We want to put more product on the shelf in Asia. They want to stock, but they haven't pulled through, and they're not able to put much of inventory. Some of these part numbers are not. Not at 12 weeks. Some of them might be at three, four weeks. So we need to enhance that further. Dave, what do you have there for the Americas? The Americas is at 35, and Europe's at 15. So both the Americas and Europe, more inventory. We're having great success by having parts on the shelf. When we were putting inventory in place in 23, 24, and 25, I know many folks were saying, why are you doing that? Well, it was to get ready for this upturn, and it's been fantastic. Market share gain for VSH because the distributors absorbed the first wave of demand. So, yes, we want to put more on the shelf. The distributors want to pull in more of the backlog. They'll take it because they're not comfortable with their inventory position. They can satisfy more customers if you have the product on the shelf. So, we continue to push. You see the part number add of 17,000 SKUs in the quarter. It's great. We've added a tremendous amount of part numbers to the distributors, which
- Management
puts us into much more of the spend at the customer. All right.
- Management
Thanks for the details.
- Management
Thanks, Ruflo.
- Management
Thanks, Ruflo.
- Operator
Our next question comes from Melissa Fairbanks of Raymond James. Your line is now open.
Question · Raymond James
Melissa FairbanksAnalyst · Raymond JamesHi, guys.
Thanks very much.
Maybe to follow up along the same thread, with the extended lead time. As for the equipment and tooling, is there a potential risk that those delivery times slip further next year, or do you actually have firm supplier commitments to deliver as needed next year? The equipment that's in ITSAHO 12 has landed, and we're doing the final connections. So the ITSAHO 12 is going to help us in the middle of next year with the commercial non-automotive MOSFET. A good help, a good start. The AI business that we're running through Korean foundries, we've got upside capacity available there. Backend is always challenging because there's a tremendous amount of even our competitors using outsourced backend. So we need to continue to accelerate our initiative. Nothing that's going to derail at this point. We're able to support the customers. Passives. Passives. We continue to de-bottleneck processes. Might be adding lasers or packaging equipment, plus an expansion in polymer tantalum, which will be equipment landing throughout 2027. It's definitely an exciting and robust environment. There's challenges always, but our teams have worked very hard to keep our lead times competitive or better than competition so the customer keep coming to us. We've got a company-wide push of lead times of 26 weeks or less. That's our target. Much of our product line is there. There's some parts that are longer, but we've got capacities that are coming quarterly to reduce those lead times.
Okay, great. Maybe just as a quick follow-up to that one, and then I'm probably going to try to squeeze in another question after that. I know the equipment and tooling lead times have been an issue for quite some time. We've kind of seen this going on in the industry for two or three years at least. Is this changing the way that you think about adding capacity? Do you want to be advantageous if you're able to get tooling and capacity to bring that up, you know, at least bring it, land the equipment, and then have it in place for when the demand requires it? Definitely. If you look back, when we announced in 2023 that we're going to spend $2.6 billion, that was the beginning of that approach. We had to prepare for this upcycle that was coming. I think what has VSH in a little different position than others is we spent significant capex in 2023, 2024, 2025, so we had orders in at these houses for tooling or for the equipment, and the equipment's landed. So now it's small pieces of equipment. It's some tool or packaging material for packaging. It's not a complete process that you're looking for in semiconductors. We've got Newport equipment for silicon. We've got our silicon carbide equipment in Newport. That we're setting up as 8-inch wafer fab. So that equipment's there. We've got the HITSO 12 equipment being put in place and being hooked up. So that's there. I think we're ahead by the spending that we did in 23, 24, and 25. We're not seeing, I mean, when we buy some tooling, we see long lead times. But it's not where we have a product line that's stalled out waiting for two years.
We're not seeing that. It's bits and pieces. Great. That's great to hear. And yeah, great strategy over the past few years. Maybe if I can squeeze in one follow-up. Not a follow-up, just a different question. So it's great to see operating cash flow and free cash flow improve pretty dramatically. At the same time, obviously, cash cycle days have been declining pretty significantly. Is there a rough estimate that we can use to understand? What each reduction in cash cycle days means for free cash flow? Or does that vary depending on what's going on in the market? Yeah, I would say it varies. I mean, we're generating, you know, as you can see, we're generating some good operating cash now. Yeah, yeah. And this is a complete turnaround, obviously, from three quarters ago or four quarters ago. All right. That's it for me. Oh, sorry. Go on. No, I was going to say, but, you know, we did guide approximately zero for the year on free cash because we're going to repay our securitization, which helped us get through some of the leaner quarters on the free cash flow. Okay, great.
Thank you so much, guys.
- Management
Thank you, Melissa.
Question · Raymond James
Melissa FairbanksAnalyst · Raymond JamesAri, are there any other questions? Sorry about that.
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Our next question comes from the line of Christopher Glenn of Oppenheimer. Your line is now open.
Question · Oppenheimer
Christopher GlennAnalyst · OppenheimerHey, thanks for the follow-up.
Just a quick one on capital allocation. You know, kind of how's the pipeline looking? And also curious, just your operational. Capacity and interest for maybe in organic growth right now, given just the really extensive range of, you know, various capacities that you're working on currently.
- Management
Capital allocation. Expanding capacities. The semiconductor back end. The Itzaho 12-inch, continuing that fab. That fab's got multiple stages. The passive expansion with the capital that we have now, we're able to accelerate tantalum polymer expansion and other passive. Yeah, sorry, Joel. I didn't mean to. I might have cut out. I didn't mean to make you repeat yourself. I think I might have cut out a little bit. I was wondering about the inorganic side. If that's even a priority now given all that you do have going on in the internal network. The M&A? The M&A activity? Yep. Yeah, we're looking at M&A activities. A number of meetings have happened and more meetings to happen in the fourth quarter with potential targets. So we are actively on the M&A path as well. Nothing to announce yet. But that is a. priority. Thank you. Thank you. I'm showing no further questions at this time. So I would like to turn it back to Joel Smacol for closing remarks. All right, Ari, thank you.
- Joel SmacolManagement
Thank you, everyone, for joining us today. Before we hold our fourth quarter call, which is in February 27, we will be at Raymond James on December 8. We'll be presenting at Raymond James in person. And also we'll be at the Needham Growth Conference in January. So hopefully to see many of you there.
Thank you very much.
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