VIA earnings / call
VIA Q3 FY2026 earnings call transcript, November 9, 2026
Via Q3 2026 Earnings
Key takeaways from this call : results vs expectations, guidance, what analysts asked
- Management 26%
- Daniel Ramot 25%
- Clara Fain 15%
- Gabby McCaig 4%
- VIA 2%
Management
Daniel Ramot
President, Chief Executive Officer and Chairman
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Clara Fain
Chief Financial Officer
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Gabby McCaig
Chief Corporate Communications Officer
2 min
VIA
Management
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Analysts · 8
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Chris Quintero
Analyst
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Transcribed automatically by Lician from the company's public webcast; it can contain errors and speaker names are best effort.
- Prepared remarks0:04
Thank you for joining us and welcome to the VIA Q3 2026 earnings call.
- Operator
After today's prepared remarks, we will host a question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question, please. Please press star one to raise your hand to withdraw your question. Press star one again. I will now hand the conference over to the VIA team. Please go ahead.
- VIAManagement
King County Metro has been an innovator. What we recognized is that we need to come together with one platform to provide all of these flexible services together. So the customer had one experience, but also so it was easier for us to manage internally. VIA has come to the table. We need to understand our values. We launched with VIA in 2019 and now we have 12 programs throughout King County. It's also exciting. Our elected officials are eagerly asking for more of it. We looked at some of the metrics that King County was getting across their service areas with VIA and we said. These look really positive. We were able to select VIA as our operator across four different zones. VIA teams were able to provide us with KPI updates in terms of the customer feedback that they're getting, status updates on the fleet and how the vehicles are performing. They're a fantastic partner in providing the service and we absolutely couldn't do it. It's not just about ridership and costs and how many people we move every day. It's really that long game that we are centered around. We want to make sure we build healthy communities, protect our environment and build an economy where everyone can thrive.
- Gabby McCaigChief Corporate Communications Officer
Good morning and welcome everyone to VIA's third quarter 2026 earnings call. I'm Gabby McCaig, VIA's Chief Corporate Communications Officer. With me today are Dana Remote. VIA's Co-Founder and CEO and Clara Fane VIA's Chief Financial Officer. During today's call, Daniel will review our third quarter 2026 business update before handing it off to Clara to discuss financial results and our guidance for the rest of the year. We will then open the call to Q&A. In addition to prepared remarks on this call, additional information can be found in our investor presentation, press release, and SEC filings on our investor relations website at investors.com. Before we get started today, we want to draw your attention to the safe harbor statement included in our press release and investor presentation. Items we discussed today will include forward-looking statements and topics including but not limited. Our future financial performance, projections, and management's plans and objectives for future operations. Actual results may differ materially from those presented in the forward-looking statements and are subject to risks and uncertainties described. More fully in our SEC filings, including our quarterly report on Form 10-Q. Any forward-looking statements that we make on this call are based on our assumptions as of today, November 9, 2026. Unless required by law. We undertake no obligation to update or revise these statements as a result of new information or future events.
We would also like to point out that our discussion today will include certain non-GAAP financial measures in addition to not as a substitute for financial measures calculated in accordance with generally accepted accounting principles. Definitions of these non-GAAP financial measures, along with reconciliations of non-GAAP to GAAP financial measures, are provided in our press release and our investor presentation. And now, I'll hand it over to Daniel.
- Daniel RamotPresident, Chief Executive Officer and Chairman
Thanks, Gabby, and thank you everyone for joining us today. We're thrilled to report another exceptional quarter for VIA. In Q3, our revenue grew 31% year-over-year to $144 million. The number of customers... ...on our platform grew to 868, up 22% year-over-year. Q3 adjusted EBITDA was negative $3.2 million, and adjusted net loss per share was essentially breakeven. Another major step towards our target of Q4 profitability. These results represent exceptional execution against our pipeline, delivering accelerating revenue growth and strong progress towards our profitability milestone. At the same time, we continue to rapidly expand our pipeline, which more than double... year over year in Q3. Last week, voters in the United States went to the polls and delivered a resounding victory for public transit. Across the country, Americans spoke clearly on the importance of transit services to their communities. Approving an overwhelming majority of the ballot measures that were put to a vote and unequivocally reaffirming their bipartisan support for transit. These ballot measures will generate $30 billion in local transit funding over the coming years. This should come as no surprise. As households face the rising costs of gas and car ownership, public transit increasingly serves a critical role in enabling Americans to get to work, doctor appointments. These wins at the ballot and the election of transit-friendly officials across the U.S., while an important result, are but a small part of the broader revolution sweeping the massive global public transit market. As the need for transit grows, so does the recognition.
that our existing systems are not only underfunded but also operate in antiquated silos, relying on fragmented, outdated technology. The need and opportunity to transform public transit systems and to dramatically improve efficiency and customer outcomes remains. ain't as great as ever. VIA is exceptionally well positioned to capitalize on this opportunity, and we are in the early innings of capturing our $82 billion SAN. For over a decade, we have worked tirelessly to develop deep expertise in every aspect. of public transit operations, to collect the extensive data needed to power the most intelligent transit solutions, and to build the world's highest performing end-to-end public transit platform. Importantly, our platform was designed from the start. as a full-stack transit solution, seamlessly bringing together advanced AI-powered software with a broad suite of technology-enabled services. Using our software, cities and transit agencies can plan, schedule, and operate their entire transit system on a single, fully integrated platform. The technology-enabled services we provide are core to our offering and allow us to directly participate in the delivery of transit to end customers. VIA's continued durable growth is a powerful testament to the success of our full-stack platform strategy. In Q3, network deals, where we leverage our end-to-end platform to manage entire transit networks, continue to be a key driver of our growth. We are winning and launching network opportunities at a...
...rapid rate and now have 10 live network deals. Network opportunities also represent a significant portion of our growing pipeline. When we take over a transit network, we fundamentally transform the operation of the entire system. We begin by leveraging our platform to integrate and streamline operations across silos and to replace existing fragmented technology systems with our software. We introduce technology into every aspect of the service, from fleet maintenance to dispatch, regulatory reporting, journey planning... ...and ticketing, to name but a few. This process is extensive and touches every aspect of the operation, and in many cases it requires transitioning processes and systems from pen and paper, retraining staff, and adapting operational practices. The benefits of this... ...transformation are striking, and they are realized immediately. Digitizing a transit system drives operational efficiencies, reduces costs, meaningfully improves rider and driver experience, and provides visibility into the system's performance that was previously lacking. Once the system is... ...digitized, and we have established data infrastructure required to measure performance across all aspects of the operation, we begin to reimagine the network. We redeploy fixed route resources to high productivity routes, introduce microtransit to provide coverage in lower-density areas... ...and improve access for paratransit riders. When this process is complete, it represents a major evolution for every stakeholder and user of the system. Consider, for example, the experience of a bus driver in a legacy transit system, the weekly schedule on a whiteboard, a batch of...
...keys to sort through to find the one that matches your vehicle. Pen and paper vehicle inspection reports. Paper manifests with route and stop instructions. Paper forms for tracking ridership. Manual data entry into disparate, antiquated ERP systems. An old-fashioned radio for communicating with dispatch to address real-time incidents. By contrast, on the VIA platform, the driver's entire experience is managed digitally through the VIA Driver app. Drivers claim shifts and manage... ...their schedules in the app. Their route, which can now be dynamic or fixed, is displayed in the app in real-time. Drivers complete detailed pre- and post-trip inspections of the vehicle and submit them through the app. They can unlock and lock their vehicle using the app. High-powered dashcams continuously assess their driving performance and provide immediate feedback through a proprietary safety portal in the app. Dispatch communicates directly with drivers through the app and drivers can track payroll information through their app. Digitizing the driver experience leads to meaningful improvements in operation. Efficiency and safety. It also provides a rich data set that allows opportunities for further improvement to be identified and actioned. As all other roles in the trans system are similarly transformed, the return for our customers is immense as we drive measurable improvements in. quality, reliability, and efficiency. Equally importantly, our customers gain a level of visibility and insight into their operations that was previously difficult to imagine. The extensive data we collect is also critical to our ability to leverage AI to further boost system performance.
Enhance staff productivity and improve rider and driver experience. We believe AI represents a massive opportunity to deliver outsize efficiency in our network deals and uniquely positions VIA to further differentiate the networks we manage from incumbent providers. Across VIA, our use of AI is rapidly accelerating the pace of product development and innovation. This has allowed us to increase the speed with which we deliver new capabilities to our transit customers, while also expanding the scope of our solutions beyond transit. Using our driver example, the same driver app capabilities can be relatively easily adapted to serve a snowplow driver, or a garbage truck driver, or a street sweeper, especially by product managers and engineers using AI to accelerate product development. This is the idea behind VIA AI. That the speed of product development enabled by AI, coupled with agentic solutions and the breadth of existing capabilities we've built for transit, can be extended to many other municipal contexts and meaningfully expand VIA's ability to provide value. And with that, I'll pass it over to Clara to review the financial highlights for the quarter and our guidance for the year.
- Clara FainChief Financial Officer
Thank you, Daniel.
I'm happy to report that Q3 was a milestone quarter for revenue and profitability. In the fifth consecutive quarter as a public company, we achieved our revenue and adjusted EBITDA guidance, continuing to demonstrate our commitment to consistent execution and durable growth. We saw an acceleration of our revenue growth to 31% year over year and a robust pipeline, which doubled again year over year and reached an all-time high this quarter. We also took a major step forward on our path to profitability this quarter, with adjusted net income and adjusted EPS rounding to breakeven. A milestone for VIA, setting the stage for our first profitable quarter in Q4. Let's start with the top line. In Q3, 2026, our annual run rate revenue, which is defined as our quarterly revenue multiplied by four, was $574 million, representing a year-over-year increase of 31%. This acceleration in revenue growth is the result of our continued pipeline growth, which more than doubled year-over-year, and strong sales. Execution to drive a faster than expected conversion of pipeline into revenue. Our growth was particularly strong in the United States, which grew 42% year-over-year and represented 77% of revenue in Q3. The U.S. was also a key factor. In our continued pipeline growth, representing the majority of our pipeline this quarter again. We closed the quarter with 868 customers, representing a year-over-year increase of 22%.
We are pleased to... It brought strong traction with new network and school customers this quarter. We are also seeing strong momentum with our larger customers. We ended the quarter with 123 customers, generating annual run rate revenue of over $1 million. A 41% increase year over year. That has supported our annualized revenue per customer, which now stands at $661,000. Its highest point ever. Now let's dive into our margins and expenses. Our adjusted gross margin this quarter was 40.5%, up from 39.6% in Q3 2025. As expected, compared with Q2, gross margin in Q3 was more consistent with prior quarters. As non-subscription... revenue reverted from 5% of revenue in Q2 to 2.5% in Q3. Year-over-year, we saw an increase in gross margin, driven by the positive impact of our ongoing margin improvement efforts, such as our AI products for customer support, optimization of our... infrastructure costs and general automation efforts. In Q3, we spent 43% of revenue on adjusted operating expenses, compared with 48% in Q3.25 and 56% in Q3.24, representing our most efficient quarter in the... history of the company. We continue to benefit from a very attractive ROI on our sales and marketing investment, with flywheel effects in states where we have sufficient density of customers, meaning that once we reach a certain scale... A minimal incremental investment in sales and marketing is required to drive significant revenue growth for our platform.
Our GNA expenses continue to reflect the higher costs associated with being a public company, notably increased accounting... ...and legal costs, as well as increased insurance expenses year over year. Finally, we saw significant efficiency with our R&D expenses, continuing to demonstrate effective leverage from our automation efforts. Over 95% of our... ...is written by or with AI, and we are continuing to ship new products and features at our fastest pace ever. Efficiency savings were partially offset by the continued strength of the Israeli shekel this quarter, which is the currency of our largest R&D center. The shekel had a negative impact of approximately $1.6 million on adjusted R&D expenses when compared to Q3 2025. We closed the quarter with an adjusted EBITDA margin of negative 2%. A meaningful improvement over negative 8% in Q3 25 and negative 17% in Q3 24 and a testament to our ability to deliver rapid revenue growth, improvement in gross margin and continued operating. Our balance sheet remains strong with $323 million in cash and no outstanding debt. Last but not least, adjusted net loss was $0.3 million and adjusted EPS rounded to break even this quarter. Significant step function improvement compared with a loss of $0.37 in Q325 and a clear milestone towards our long-term profitability goals. Over the past few years, we have kept growing revenue while operating expenses have risen much more slowly.
Last quarter, revenue was $144 million and adjusted operating expenses were $61 million. We expect to maintain that discipline going forward. Now let's turn to guidance. For the fourth quarter of 2020, we expect revenue of $150 to $151.7 million, representing 26.1% to 27.6% year-over-year growth. We expect to deliver a first quarter of positive adjusted EBITDA. in the range of $0 to $1.5 million, a margin of 0 to 1%. And we also plan to deliver positive adjusted net income and adjusted EPS. For the full year, we are raising revenue guidance by more than the Q3. EBIT to $556.7 to $558.4 million, representing 28.2% to 28.6% growth. With most of the year complete, we are narrowing adjusted EBITDA to negative 12%. $5.5 to $11 million, a margin of negative 2.2% to negative 2%. It is worth reminding ourselves that the shekel has had a significant impact on our results this year, with $5.4 million of negative impact to EBITDA year today. When compared to last year, we have taken steps to hedge the vast majority of our shekel exposure for Q4 26 to lock in our profitability goals. As we look forward to 2027, we're excited about the opportunity. Be ahead. Our pipeline is at a record high. Our team is executing at the highest level. And we're only in the early stages of unlocking the growth potential of AI labs, schools and network deals. With that, I'd like to thank you. And I'll turn it back to the operator for questions.
- Q&A17:19
- Operator
We will now begin the question and answer session. Please limit yourself to one question and one follow up. If you would like. To ask a question, please press star one to raise your hand. To withdraw your question, press star one again. We ask that you pick up your handset when asking a question to allow for optimum sound quality. If you are muted locally, please remember to unmute your device. Please stand by while we compile the Q&A roster.
Your first question comes from the line of John DeFucci with Guggenheim Security.
Your line is open. Please go ahead.
Question · Guggenheim
John DeFucciAnalyst · GuggenheimThank you. Nice job. Really nice job, VIA team. These are really impressive results. I'd like to start with sort of a high-level question. You kind of went through. But you said your pipeline continues to double year over year, implying you're closing some of those deals each period and still adding more deals to the pipeline, which is out of record. And it shows up in all your metrics, whether it's accelerating ARR revenue, customer count. Revenue per customer, which as Clara said, was a record high this quarter, 661K. Can you talk a little bit more about what's driving this? And Daniel, I know you hit on it, but is it just like just execution, your ability to offer a fully integrated platform? And this network deal traction, or is it like this greater awareness of what you're doing since coming public having an impact? And, or I don't know, maybe there's cross selling happening into the downtown or customer base or, or something else, because these numbers. this is an inflection point this quarter.
- Daniel RamotPresident, Chief Executive Officer and Chairman
Thanks so much, John.
Great to hear from you. And thanks for the question. We, we totally agree. We feel this quarter was very strong and we're very pleased with the results. As you said, it feels like a lot of things are moving forward in the right direction. And I think that's, that's really the answer to your question. There's several factors all playing together. Everything from the platform that we've talked about quite a bit, enabling us to cross sell, enabling us to win more customers. more rapidly. Greater awareness is certainly a factor. And I, you know, as we've talked before, we definitely believe the IPO has contributed to that. So that's, that's been a really nice element. I think the fact that we're able to deliver product innovation and product faster. And we feel with an accelerating pace to our customers is also driving adoption. AI is definitely contributing. So there's a, there's a there's just a confluence and factors coming together that we feel are driving these results. And as we look forward, we feel confident in our ability to continue to do that. Well, that's great. And now you just got to keep it going. Maybe just a quick follow-up. As you know, we've done a lot of work around government spending, and we come to our own conclusions about durability of that, and it seems like it's really durable, especially as we start to hear of COVID-era funds winding down. But you talked about 50 ballot measures passed in 2026 elections with the incremental $30 billion in local transit funding. That's something we're going to start to dig into, so thanks for pointing that out. Can you give us a little more detail around it?
Can you give us some examples or something to get us started here on that? Because that sounds really exciting. Yeah, John, thanks. I totally agree with you. I think it's very clear that the growth that we're following has the potential to be very durable. And if you look at what happened in the ballot, as I mentioned, in the prepared remarks, they're just such a strong bipartisan support from Americans during... just so we can understand what they're voting for. What they're voting for is often either to maintain or increase local taxes to continue to pay for transit. So in an environment, people are not necessarily that excited about new taxes. The fact that they're interested in supporting transit and are... Doing so in a bipartisan fashion across the entire country tells you how important people view public transit to be. And the fact that it's also bipartisan across red districts, blue districts is a very powerful... You know, maybe one example that we were very close to is one in Pierce County in Washington State, where there's the transit agency for Pierce County, I think really was in need of funds in order to expand. Service, including the plans to expand microtransit pretty significantly and generally expand transit. So that that would be a valid measure that I would look at that I think, you know, started out maybe a bit challenged, but very quickly gained momentum and passed.
Passed with some really nice majority. So there are many others that I could point to, but I think that's one that I would start with. And overall, when you look at what these valid measures are often planning to fund. What's really interesting to us is they include a lot of on-demand transit and microtransit, which is also exciting. It shows how the industry has transformed in the last, you know, just a few years since we started with microtransit, how quickly that adoption has come in. Great. Thank you.
Question · Guggenheim
John DeFucciAnalyst · GuggenheimThank you, Daniel.
And by the way, you know, it's not lost on us that you use the word bipartisan several times in that answer, and that's actually, we all know, pretty rare. Thank you.
- Management
Thanks, John.
- Operator
Your next question comes from the line of Chris Quintero.
with Morgan Stanley. Your line is open. Please go ahead.
Question
?Chris QuinteroAnalystHey, Daniel.
- Management
Hey, Clara.
Question
?Chris QuinteroAnalystThank you for taking the questions and congrats on the nice acceleration here. I want to dig a little bit into that $1 million plus. customer accounts that also accelerate in the quarter. So just curious that you're obviously landing these bigger network deals, but curious kind of what else you're seeing within that metric, you know, cross sell into those additional customers that you had for a while too.
- Management
Hey, Chris.
- Management
Nice to see you.
Question
?Chris QuinteroAnalystThanks for the question and the kind words. We're very pleased about the results this quarter. And thanks for digging into the 1 million plus customer. You can see, you know, they grew, you know, 41% year over year to 123 customers are growing at a faster pace than overall customers. And, you know, overall revenue, which is really exciting. And there are a few components to it. One is that, you know, obviously we're selling network deals, which tend to be larger, you know, two and a half to 15 million is a good kind of scale range for those. So they definitely have. Some impact, but you can see it's not the only impacts. We have only 10 of them. The rest is coming from expansion with existing customers and just selling more software and services to them.
All right. Super helpful. And then I know you guys launched the school opportunity and it looks like you got some customers in there today. So curious on what you're seeing in that early kind of adoption and what should we expect for kind of Q4? As you kind of get more of that revenue recognition coming from that.
- Management
Thanks, Chris.
- Management
Hi. As you said, schools are continuing to grow very nicely. We continue to believe that is one of the. Next S curves that we're layering on top of the growth of the core business, the core transit business. We continue to see nice traction as expected. You know, Q3 is a very important quarter for schools. For obvious reason, we saw some really nice traction, some good customer ads. We expect that to continue to contribute into Q4. Excellent.
- Management
Thank you so much.
- Operator
Your next question comes from the line of Michael Turin with Wells Fargo. Your line is open. Please go ahead.
Question · Wells Fargo
Michael TurinAnalyst · Wells FargoHi, good morning.
This is Camden Levy sitting in for Michael Turin.
Thank you for taking our question. Just digging into the guidance for 4Q, the implied sequential net new revenues is a little below like what you did last year. Are there any one-time items or pull-forwards in demand that we should keep into consideration as we're thinking about 4Q?
- Management
Hi, thanks for the question.
- Management
I would say we are really pleased. So we're... ...able to flow through more than a bit into our Q2 and full-year guidance. And we're very pleased with our Q4 guidance. Apologies. And, you know, believe it shows, you know, if you can compare kind of guidance over guidance, continue trends into our... Our acceleration of revenue. So overall, kind of really excited. Obviously, you know, you know that our quarters are each, you know, specific. So not sure there's anything to compare to last year. But I would say we're really pleased with the Q4 as it's coming up. And yeah, we're excited to flow through the beat into the full year and a bit more than that helpful. And then maybe just one follow up question from our end on AI labs and the cost efficiencies that you guys are achieving in your intern. operations. Is there a way for us to think about the incremental margin expansion into 27 as the results that you're making to your business operations? And how much of the R&D and sales and marketing efficiencies this quarter were driven by the AI lab mechanics? I think there's a lot to unpack in your question. I would say, you know, we had shared last quarter that we thought, you know, gross margin would revert to 40%. So we were pleased to land at 40.5%. So ahead of it. We have expectations on gross margin, mostly driven by our efficiency initiatives and the deployment of AI through our accounts, which, you know, for example, with customer support automation and some other automation initiatives that were extremely...
- Management
...impactful. And then we're continuing to see leverage throughout the cost structure. They have different, you know, obviously there's different drivers on sales and marketing. It's mostly from our flywheel effects because, you know, as we sell to a city... ...the cities around them tend to adopt the solution faster. And we're continuing to see really powerful flywheel effects with our customers and very nice growth. And that's supporting our very significant leverage with sales and marketing. And on R&D, you know, despite the strength of the shackle, you can see that we've continued to see leverage. And I would say that is mostly driven by AI initiatives and the general automation of our R&D efforts, which are really coming to bear. this year and looking very promising. Thank you. I appreciate it.
- Operator
Your next question comes from a line of Alex Zoukin with Wolf Research.
Your line is open. Please go ahead.
Hey, guys.
Thanks for taking the question.
I echo the earlier congrats on an inflecting quarter. Maybe my first, I'll ask my, actually, both of them up front. I'm in a loud location. But first, maybe on the network effect deals and the network deals, what kind of, how do you think about that representing both future growth and opportunity for you over the course of the next, you know, 12 to 24 months. And then Clara, just any concept on what we should expect going forward on gross margins, you know, anything we should kind of take into account to remember, or maybe just the trajectory from here as we use more AI. services inside of the product.
Thanks again.
Thanks, Alex.
Great to hear your voice. And thanks for the question. On the network deals, you know, we continue to believe that that is probably the single most important driver for the business next year. We are seeing really strong traction on that front. And as we are doing more and more of these deals, and hopefully you can see the acceleration. We went from one not that long ago to 10. As we get into these deals and start to understand the opportunity. In transforming these networks, and I tried to talk about that a little earlier. We do believe that the opportunity may be even greater than we expected. Just as far as what's possible in transforming the system, these systems, how efficient we can make them. You know, in some sense, how... The real technology they're using and the opportunity that that provides. And then, of course, bringing AI in, which we think we're uniquely capable in doing, combined with our services, we believe presents a really powerful opportunity. And so looking forward, we continue to be... We're very excited about that. And we also believe that as we show results, again, with the flywheel effects that we experience, nearby cities, nearby transit agencies are going to very quickly understand what's possible. And we hope that that helps us win these opportunities even faster. I'll pass it on to Clara for your second question.
Thanks, Alex.
On the gross margin, we are happy to deliver, as I said, ahead of expectations this quarter. And we expect next quarter to be consistent, so we don't expect... to revert. So excited to maintain these efficiencies and looking forward to next year. You know, we're committed to our long-term gross margin targets and continuing to increase gross margins over time and look forward... to delivering on that next year.
- Operator
Your next question comes from the line of Brian Schwartz with Oppenheimer. Your line is open. Please go ahead.
Question · Oppenheimer
Brian SchwartzAnalyst · OppenheimerYes.
Hello, good morning.
Thank you for taking my questions. Daniel, I wanted to shift the discussion over to the two different geographies, the U.S. strength versus the international demand. You know, your U.S. revenue is growing significantly faster than the... overall growth of the company. Maybe on the U.S. side, what is...what's driving that outperformance? Is it larger awards, faster implementations, is it customers' expansions, or maybe all of the above? And then on the international growth gap, is that primary... Procurement timing, or is there a more persistent demand difference between the two geographies?
- Management
Thanks, Brian.
- Management
Great to hear you. You know, as you said, the U.S. is showing some really strong growth. As we mentioned, we grew 42% year over year in the U.S. this past quarter. So from our perspective, that's an outstanding result. That's driven primarily by just faster adoption and the growth in the size of the deals, penetration into these network opportunities that's starting to take off from our perspective. And then, you know, this is still very. Early, but some of these additional S curves that we've talked about layering on top of our core business schools, AI labs, we continue to see those as really big opportunities as we look forward. So the U.S. strength is very encouraging. And we believe to be quite durable. And the rest of the world, specifically Germany, which we've talked about, we do believe that that situation has stabilized and we're looking forward in the coming quarters to return that to growth. We saw some encouraging. signs in the last quarter. And we're hoping that that can persist as we look forward into next year. Thank you. And then the follow-up question I had for Clara, just on the cash conversion, you know, the operating cash flow, you know, was a use of $14.5 million, you know, but the adjusted EBITDA loss was only about $3 million. And I can see that the receivables were consuming almost $19 million of cash. So is that just primarily collection timing around new deployments? Or does the growth model, you know, require structurally more
- Management
working capital?
Question · Oppenheimer
Brian SchwartzAnalyst · OppenheimerThanks again for taking my question.
- Management
Thanks, Brian.
- Management
Good observation on the cash. I would say it's too drivers. One, we've been growing really fast. So, you know, initially when we launched, there tends to be a slightly longer lag with the first invoice, which is driving some collection delays. And then same, you know, just our customers or government. Customers, they tend to pay on their own timeline. We expect, obviously, you know, we've never had any kind of material issue with the customers. We expect that they will pay. There's just been some timing. So what you're seeing here is timing and it should revert next quarter.
- Operator
Your next question comes from the line of Patrick Walravens with Citizens JMP. Your line is open. Please go ahead.
Question · Citizens JMP
Patrick WalravensAnalyst · Citizens JMPOh, great. And let me add my... Congratulations. It's really great to see how the team executed this quarter. I'm going to go a little deeper on Brian's question. So last quarter, Clara, Germany was 18 million down 12%. year over year. Where was it this quarter?
- Management
Hey, Pat.
Question · Citizens JMP
Patrick WalravensAnalyst · Citizens JMPGreat to see you. And thanks for the kind words. And Germany was stable quarter of a course. It was up 1% this quarter versus last. quarter at $18.4 million. As we said, you know, we're seeing a stabilization of the German market and are starting to see the first signs of potential returning to growth. And we're working on reigniting the market and getting it back to growth. As soon as we can. Wonderful. And then it's a little early for this, but do you have any pointers for us in terms of how we should think about. 2027 growth. I mean, you're going to exit the year at 27% sort of at the midpoint of the range. So how do we think about next year?
- Management
Thanks, Pat.
- Management
You know, I can just say at this point that we're really pleased with the. And the acceleration of the growth. And we are excited to continue. I think this quarter was, you know, the first real concrete conversion of our pipeline into revenue. And we're excited to continue to execute against the pipeline. Pipeline is at a record high. Which is a very good signal. We've executed this quarter. And so we're excited to deliver kind of rapid and durable growth, which we believe our market and company warrant for next year.
- Management
Thank you, guys.
- Operator
Your next question comes from the line of Jonathan Ho with William Blair. Your line is open. Please go ahead.
Question · William Blair
Jonathan HoAnalyst · William BlairHi, good morning.
And let me. Michael, my congratulations as well. Just wanted to start out with sort of the go to market investments that you made historically. And can you update us on what's been most effective as well as, you know, maybe. In terms of, you know, sports analogies, you know, how far we are along either in terms of innings or whatever metric might make sense in terms of, you know, where you are in terms of, you know, realizing the success that we've seen here.
- Management
Thanks, Tom.
- Management
Jonathan, great to see you. I would say, I think we're still very early from our perspective in penetrating this market. We're starting to see some exciting signs through the adoption, as we saw in the result. It's from the last quarter, but still very early. The things that I think work are developing this very strong consultative sales capability, really working with our customers to help them. Come up with solutions and solve problems. Understanding where they're coming from. You know, we have a muscle that we've built over the years in responding to public procurements, responding to RFPs, which is really critical, making that as efficient as possible and just finding the right places. To meet our customers where they are and whether it's in the right conferences, visiting with them, introducing them to other customers nearby to accelerate the flywheel effects that we're seeing. Those are the sorts of actions that we're finding are most. It's effective without giving away our secret sauce. And it still feels very early. When you look across the country, everywhere where we have, certainly if you look where we have a network deal, there are a large number of very similar agencies and cities. Right nearby that we believe if they adopted our solution would see dramatic gains in their service. So we're pretty excited about where that can go over the coming years. Excellent. And then, yeah, just in.
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In terms of the twenty twenty six referendums in the timeline with which they usually translate the pipeline, is there a way to maybe help us understand how this moves from the ballot to. You know, RFP to, you know, potential revenue opportunity. What does that typically look like from a cycle perspective? Thank you.
Question · William Blair
Jonathan HoAnalyst · William BlairThanks, that's a great question.
Obviously, they vary. I would say some you could imagine within a few months. ... into potential opportunities. As agencies understand, you know, the funding that they'll have available, they may start to procure based on that. Some could take a little bit longer, but we're not talking five years out, right? So it's... It's sort of an order of maybe a few months to maybe many months, maybe a year or two, but that's sort of the range where I would think of opportunities that might come out that are relevant to us.
- Management
Thank you.
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Question · Raymond James
Brian PetersonAnalyst · Raymond JamesThanks for taking the question.
- Management
I'll echo my congrats. It was a great quarter. I'd actually love to follow up on that line of thinking. As the 30 billion that you guys mentioned, I'd love to understand maybe how much of that is in states where you already have that flywheel effect and you'd probably really likely to gain that spending or win some of that spending versus maybe where there's an incremental opportunity in geographies where you don't have it. It's a strong of a presence.
- Management
Yeah, thanks, Brian.
- Management
Thanks for the kind words and great to hear you. I think we're seeing these opportunities all over the country. So there's just a mix. Some of them are absolutely smack dab within our. Our flywheel and our very exciting and could be could be great near term opportunities with a high probability that we may benefit from them. And others are in new geographies where, you know, we're tracking them very closely with this funding now. You know, we may direct some sales and marketing efforts and try to get to know those folks and hopefully leverage that opportunity to help them utilize the funds as efficiently as possible, which is really our focus here, right, is trying to help these government agencies take. This, you know, hard-won taxpayer money and make sure that it's utilized in the most efficient way possible.
Question · Raymond James
Brian PetersonAnalyst · Raymond JamesUnderstood. Maybe as a follow-up, as we think about some of these large network opportunities that you have in the pipeline. How have those sales cycles or processes progressed over the course of 2026? And as these become more commonplace, would you envision that those become a little bit shorter as we go into 2027 and beyond?
Thanks, guys.
- Management
Yeah, thanks, Brian. I think generally what we saw in 2026, which was encouraging and was our hope, is that the sales processes for these network deals are fairly consistent with our historical sales processes. They run through, they're larger, certainly, and more complex, more involved, but they run through similar procurement processes in the end. And so we have not seen a material difference, I'll say, between those opportunities and our historical pipeline. Pipeline processes and conversion. I think as we move forward, there's obviously an opportunity to accelerate these, knowing our customers and their procurement processes. I don't think we'll see anything dramatic, but there's hope that as the... The value becomes clearer. There's more eagerness to make the transition, and therefore, you might see some shortening of the sales cycle. But currently, our assumption is that this will stay consistent. Great. Thank you.
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Question · Deutsche Bank
Chris FountainAnalyst · Deutsche BankHi, this is Chris Fountain on for Brad.
Thanks for taking my question.
Clara, ARR per customer continues to trend very nicely and reached a record high despite a growing contribution from some of those school district wins and seemingly driven by the $1 million plus cohort. I was wondering if you could unpack some of the puts and takes between those dynamics. to explain what's driving the continued increase in ARR per customer.
- Management
Hey, Chris, thanks for the question. And I think I think you summed it up really nicely that, you know, the this quarter, you know, while you would normally expect schools. customers to start in September and then dilute your overall ARR per customer, we were able to more than offset that dilution with, you know, higher than expected growth from large customers. So we're very pleased with. that and the continued growth with our large customers and with the current pipeline as it looks, if we can continue to execute, we feel very positive about continued growth in our ARR per customer.
Question · Deutsche Bank
Chris FountainAnalyst · Deutsche BankGot it. Thanks a lot. And with the school wins, a really nice highlight in the quarter, maybe could you just spend a minute and walk us through the basic economics of a typical win? Anything we should know about implementation time to revenue ramping or different gross margin? Relative to your core transit business?
- Management
Thanks, Chris.
- Management
I think what's kind of important is that schools have some seasonality. They generally launch in September. We tend to run through Q4 and then through and intend to, you know, run down around summer month. So Q3 tends to be kind of just a slower quarter for schools. You know, we're pleased with our progress on... The school's vertical and kind of like, you know, I was saying we've layered that the escurs of growth, you know, we have, you know, we've been seeing higher gross margin from that vertical and kind of look forward to continuing to execute. there with the schools business pretty early, but we're, you know, very excited about the growth we're seeing there and just the overall opportunity.
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