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VCTR Q3 2026 earnings call transcript, November 5, 2026
Victory Capital Management, Inc. - Third Quarter 2026 Earnings Conference Call
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- Prepared remarks0:03
Good morning, and welcome to the Victory Capital Third Quarter 2026 Earnings Conference Call.
- Operator
All callers are in a listen-only mode. Following the company's prepared remarks, there will be a question and answer session. If you'd like to ask a question, please press star 1 to raise your hand. To withdraw your question, press star 1 again. I will now turn the call over to Ms. Carly Thomas, Director of Investor Relations and Responsible Business. Please go ahead, Ms. Thomas.
- Management
Thank you, Operator.
- Management
And good morning, everyone. Before I turn the call over to Chairman and CEO, David Brown.
- David BrownChairman and CEO
I would like to remind you that during today's conference call, we may make several forward looking statements. Victory Capital's actual results may differ materially from these statements. Please refer to our... ...SEC filings for a list of some of the risk factors that may cause actual results to differ materially from those expressed on today's call. Victory Capital assumes no duty and does not undertake any obligation to update any... ...forward-looking statements. Our press release, which was issued after the market closed yesterday, disclosed both GAAP and non-GAAP financial results. We believe the non-GAAP measures enhance the understanding... ...of our business and our performance. Reconciliations between these non-GAAP measures and the most comparable GAAP measures are included in tables that can be found in our earnings press release and in the slides accompanied... ...in this call, both of which are available on the Investor Relations section of our website at ir.vcm.com. The slides also include further information on the historical investment... ...and performance statistics discussed today. In addition, today's presentation includes information regarding the pending acquisition of Fierce Eagle Investments and our upcoming special meeting of stockholders. Please refer to slide three for these disclosures. It is now my pleasure to turn the call over to David Brown, Chairman and CEO. David?
Thanks, Carly.
Good morning, everyone, and welcome to the webinar. Welcome to Victory Capital's third quarter 2026 earnings call. I'm also joined today by Michael Pelicarpo, our president, chief financial and administrative officer. I will start with an overview of our third quarter results. Which delivered the strongest organic growth in our company's history. I will also give a brief update on our pending acquisition of First Eagle Investments. After that, I will turn the call over to Mike to review the financial results.
- MikeManagement
in greater detail. Following our prepared remarks, we will be available to answer your questions. On slide six, you will see the third quarter was a record quarter for flows and for organic growth. Total client assets reached three hundred. Fifty five point five billion dollars up three percent from Q2 and thirteen percent higher than at the end of the same period last year. Long term gross flows were a record thirty point five billion dollars up. Thirty eight percent quarter over quarter and eighty percent versus the same quarter last year annualized. That is more than a third of our long term AUM, a level we believe is more than sufficient to drive sustainable organic growth. Over the longer term, long term net inflows were also a record at eleven point seven billion dollars, an improvement of seven point five billion dollars from the second quarter and nearly twelve billion dollars from. The third quarter of last year. That represents an annualized long term AUM organic growth rate of close to fourteen percent and brings our year to date long term net flows to fifteen point four billion dollars. From a financial perspective, adjusted EBITDA was two hundred and twelve million dollars and our adjusted EBITDA margin was fifty three point five percent, up 80 basis points from the same quarter last year and well. Above our long term guidance of fifty percent. Adjusted earnings per share was one dollar and ninety eight cents, up twenty one percent from Q3 of last year. Additionally, in August, we announced it.
Finna agreement to acquire First Eagle Investments, which I'll go into in more detail later in the presentation. I want to drill down on flows to better explain what is going on in this part of our business and why we are so excited. About the future opportunities we have. What you are seeing come to fruition is the hard work and investment that began several years ago. Over that time, we've invested deliberately in distribution through people, tech. Technology, data, marketing, and product development. When we closed the Pioneer acquisition, we brought two sales organizations together. And since then, we have invested heavily in educating our sales professionals across the entire product. Today, we operate as one complete sales organization, representing all products, with every sales professional able to represent the full Vintage, Victory, Capital, and Pioneer lineup. Relationships in our industry take time to season. Clients rarely invest in the day of the first meeting. They get to know the investment team, the process, and the track record, and then they commit. We are seeing the results of a great deal of hard work over many client interactions. That is also why I want to be very clear about the breadth of this quarter's results. Our growth is not coming from one vehicle, one franchise, one client, or one asset class. Our U.S. intermediary, U.S. institutional, and international channels each generated positive long-term net flows. Multiple investment franchises and our Victory Shares ETF platform were net flow positive. And flows were positive across fixed income.
solutions, multi-asset, and global equity. The breadth is both important and intentional. The diverse nature of our product lineup spanning numerous asset classes and vehicles allows our teams to lead with a effective solutions built around client objectives. Underpinning all of this is strong investment performance, which brings me to slide seven. Investment performance remains the foundation of everything we do. It is the reason clients hire us. And the reason they stay with us. As of September 30, 2026, 56 of our mutual funds and ETFs, or about half of our rated funds, earned four or five star overall ratings from Morningstar. Compare with only about a third of rated funds industry-wide. Those funds represent 62% of our rated AUM, up from 60% last quarter. Against benchmarks, 60% of our AUM outperformed over the one year. 69% over three years, 63% over five years, and 77% over the 10-year period. On a strategy count basis, 64%, 63%, 66%. And 69% of our strategies outperform their benchmarks over those same time periods. Our clients invest with a long-term horizon, and we manage their assets the same way. Our focus remains on disciplined, repeatable investment processes, reflect... ...to trust our clients place in us every day. Slide 8 shows the diversification of our platform today. Solutions Now represents 33% of our $355.5 billion in total... ...client assets. U.S. equity, 29%, fixed income, 25%, and global and non-U.S. equity, 11%, with alternatives and money market making up the balance.
Last quarter, I walked through how far we have come since our management buyout in 2013, when approximately 80% of our AUM was in U.S. equity. This quarter, that diversification showed up directly in our flows. The areas where clients across the industry are... allocating today, including fixed income, multi-asset solutions, and ETFs, are areas where we have deliberately built depth. Having a complete product set means that when client demand shifts, we are already positioned to meet it. Turning to slide 9, our Victory Shares ETF platform had its strongest quarter to date. ETF AUM ended the quarter at $27.7 billion, up 48% year-to-date and 61% year-over-year. Positive net flows of $3.9 billion in the third quarter represent an annualized organic growth rate of 67% and bring our year-to-date total to $6.4 billion. ETF net inflows exceeded $1 billion in every month of the quarter. Last quarter, I described how we built this business from just a few hundred million dollars of ETF assets in 2015. This quarter... ...shows what the consistency produces. Our free cash flow ETF series continued to lead with our flagship VFLO, which launched just three years ago, now over $12 billion in AUM, with a morning start... ...our five-star overall rating. Our fixed-income ETFs were also meaningful contributors, contributing close to $1 billion of net inflows in the quarter, led by our Pioneer Investments and Victory Income Investors offerings.
We also continued to innovate. During the quarter, we launched two new municipal ETFs, the Victory Shares Municipal High-Yield ETF and the Victory Shares Short-Duration Municipal ETF, bringing our platform to 25 ETFs across... seven investment themes, with more to come as we continue to build out the platform and bring new products to market. Our average ETF fee rate is 33 basis points. 73% of our rated ETF AUM... ...carries a four or five star overall rating from Morningstar, and the margins of our ETF business continue to meet our firm-wide standards. In other words, the average fee rate might be lower than our firm's overall average fee rate, but the margins on these products are not lower than... ...in our firm-wide margin. Slide 10 covers our international business, which continues to build significant momentum. At quarter M, we had $65.8 billion in AUM from international clients, with clients in 62... ...countries outside the U.S., and 35 of those countries with more than $100 million in Victory Capital AUM. We sub-advised 23 USITs at quarter end, and we have since launched a fixed income USITs with Victory Capital AUM. ...income investors, bringing the current total to 24. International AUM has grown 46% in the 18 months since the Pioneer transaction closed, and our international business was net flow positive in the quarter, year-to-date, and cumulatively... ...since closing. When we announced our partnership with Amundi, we said it would take time for their distribution teams to get to know our investment teams and our capabilities. 18 months in, that familiarity is growing every quarter.
As our product set in this channel expands, and as relationships season, the opportunity continues to grow. Turning to slide 11, I would like to provide a brief update on our pending acquisition of first... ...Eagle Investments. As we said when we announced a transaction in August, this is a transformational acquisition for Victory Capital. When we close, we will have greater size and scale across every part of our business, giving us... ...even more capacity to invest in our investment teams, our distribution, technology, data, and our people. The investment capabilities are complementary to what we have today. First Eagle adds a differentiated... ...global value multi-asset capability, complementary equity and fixed income capabilities, and a scaled CLO and alternative credit platform. First Eagle manages approximately $222 billion. ...aum, 92% of its rated mutual fund and ETF, AUM carries a four or five-star overall Morningstar rating, and has generated positive net flows in each of the last three years and year-to-date in 2000. The transaction meaningfully expands our U.S. distribution. First Eagle products are used by approximately 103,000 U.S. financial advisors and roughly 3 million end investors. Along with over 700 institutional clients. Internationally, both firms work with Amundi today, so this deepens a strategic partnership that is already working incredibly well for us.
It's also an area where our organic and inorganic growth strategies come together. We are acquiring a business that is already growing, which adds to the organic momentum I described earlier, and our business becomes more. More diversified, more durable, and more resilient across all market environments and cycles. Our teams are deeply engaged in integration planning together with the First Eagle team. We continue to work towards closing by the end of the first quarter. 2027, subject to customary closing conditions. Our special meeting of stockholders to approve the share issuance is scheduled for November 17th. As I said in August, integration is a core compensation. It is work we know how to do, done by people who have done it many times before. We are on track with our net expense synergy target of $280 million, 35% accretion target to annualize 2027. Adjusted earnings per share and timing targets in reference to close and net expense synergies we communicated at the announcement of the transaction. Slide 12 places First Eagle in the context of our longer term. Journey. Since our management buyout in 2013, every step of our growth has been intentional. On a pro forma basis, including First Eagle, our AUM will have grown by more than 3,000% since 2013. Each acquisition has made our platform stronger, more durable, and ultimately more competitive. And each one has positioned us to do the next. The opportunity set remains deep with more than 110 investment firms managing between.
50 and $200 billion and more than 35 firms between 200 and $500 billion. Our immediate focus is on closing and integrating First Eagle, and we remain committed to our goal of $1 trillion. in assets under management over time. Slide 13 outlines our capital allocation framework, which has not changed. Strategic acquisitions remain our primary and best use of capital. We have closed eight strategic acquisitions since 2013. And that discipline approach has driven our adjusted earnings per share with tax benefit to grow at a compound annual rate of approximately 21% since our IPO with quarterly adjusted EP. up nearly 400% over that period. That is what step change growth looks like in practice. And First Eagle will continue and enhance that pattern. At the same time, our commitment to returning capital to shareholders continues. In our IPO, we have returned $1.6 billion to shareholders, including $1 billion in share repurchases. In the third quarter, we returned $81 million to shareholders, including 30. $69 million in share repurchases, and we have now returned more than $400 million year to date. That reflects the strength of our free cash flow and our asset light business model. Stepping back, this quarter showed what happened. When years of investment in distribution, product, and people come together on top of strong investment performance and a highly efficient platform, all supported by an ownership culture. We have the people, the platform, and the strategy.
I'm as excited about the future of this company as I've ever been. I will now turn the call over to Mike to walk through the financial results in more detail. Mike.
Thanks, Dave, and good morning, everyone. Results review begins on slide 15. Revenue for the quarter was $396.6 million, up 10% from the same quarter last year, and the second highest in the history of our firm. On a gap base. Operating income was $137.7 million, and net income was $1.11 per diluted share. Gap results this quarter include higher acquisition-related costs. Costs associated with the first EGLE transaction. Adjusted EBITDA was $212.1 million, and our adjusted EBITDA margin was 53.5%. Adjusted net income with tax benefit was $163.2 million, or $1.98 per diluted share. Up 21% versus Q3 2025, and the second highest in the history of- our firm. Our adjusted EBITDA margin of 53.5% reflects the continued efficiency of our platform and was up 80 basis points from the same quarter last year. We ended the quarter with $208 million of cash and a net leverage ratio of 0.9 times. We returned $81 million to shareholders in the quarter, including $39.3 million. In share repurchases. On slide 16, total client assets at quarter end were a record $355.5 billion. Well diversified across our U.S. intermediary. U.S. institutional, U.S. direct, and international channels with clients in 63 countries including the United States. Slide 17 shows our long-term AUM flows.
And this is the slide that best captures the momentum in our business. Record long-term gross flows of $30.5 billion were up 38% from Q2 and 78% from the fourth quarter of 2000. On an annualized basis, gross flows are running at approximately 36% of current long-term AUM. That is a level of long-term gross flows that we believe is more than... ...sufficient to drive sustainable organic growth over the longer term. Record net long-term flows of $11.7 billion represents 13.8% annualized organic growth. And every month... ...of the quarter was net flow positive. In Q2, I described what we are seeing as a convergence point, where the investments we have made in technology, data, distribution, marketing, product, and people were starting. ...to work together. The third quarter is what that convergence looks like when it continues to build. The breadth is what stands out. Positive long-term net flows came from multiple... ...investment franchises, including Pioneer Investments, RS Global, Victory Income Investors, and West End Advisors, as well as our Victory Shares ETFs. They came from multiple... ...channels, with our U.S. intermediary, U.S. institutional, and international channels all contributing. Our one but not yet funded pipeline also remains significant across multiple... ...franchises and channels, both in the U.S. and internationally. Moving to slide 18, revenue was $396.6 million on record average AUM of $350.6 billion.
Our average fee rate for the quarter was 44.8 basis points. As a reminder, a single-digit percentage of our annual revenue comes from certain annual fees that are recognized. At specific points in the year, rather than evenly each quarter. The amount recognized in Q3 was significantly lower than in Q2, which accounts for the majority of the change in both revenue and fee rate. Quarter over quarter. Additionally, our sales are in line with where client demand is across the industry. Fixed income, multi-asset, and ETFs, along with continued growth from our internet. International clients. Those areas carry fee rates modestly below our total firm average. This is about asset and channel mix. It has nothing to do with reducing fees on our products. We are selling very strong. in exactly the areas where clients are allocating and they are choosing the products we have built. Looking through the quarterly timing, the full year picture is unchanged. Year to date, including annual fees, our average fee rate is 46.3 basis points, squarely in line with our full year guidance of 46 to 47 basis points, which I am reiterating as we look forward. Most importantly, we manage this business for margin and earnings growth, not for fee rate in isolation because of the efficiency of our platform and our highly variable expense base. The growth we are generating in these areas comes with. Strong margins, and that is evident in our 53.5% margin this quarter. Turning to expenses on slide 19. Total operating expenses were 258.9.
$1 million in Q3. Cash compensation as a percentage of revenue was 21.7% within our expected range, and we continue to expect cash compensation to run in the low to mid-20s as a percentage of revenue on a normalized basis. Our variable cost structure remains a key feature of our business. More than two-thirds of our total operating expenses are variable, which provides meaningful flexibility through different market environments. Two items increased this quarter, and both are non-recurring in nature. Acquisition related expenses rose to $17.1 million on transaction costs primarily associated with First Eagle. In non-cash equity compensation, increased on the accelerated performance share vesting as two vesting hurdles were achieved in the quarter. On slide 20, adjusted EBITDA of $212.1 million was up 11% year-over-year, and our adjusted EBITDA margin was 53.5%. Adjusted net income with tax benefit of $163.2 million was up 16% year-over-year, and $1.98 per diluted share was up 21%. We are maintaining our long-term adjusted EBITDA margin guidance of 50%, a level we have now met or exceeded for 14 consecutive quarters. That consistency is the result of a purposely designed, highly efficient, scalable platform and the exceptional people who run it every day. Finally, slide 21 covers our balance. We ended the quarter with $208 million in cash and $975 million of debt with a net leverage ratio of 0.9 times adjusted EBITDA and our $100 million revolver remains undrawn.
We returned $81 million to shareholders in Q3. We enter the first Eagle transaction from a position of strength. Our leverage is below one times. We have fully committed financing in place and the free cash flow characteristics of our business give us the ability to fund the transaction. deliver at a quick pace and continue returning capital to shareholders along the way. The board declared our regular quarterly cash dividend of 50 cents per share, which will be paid. on December 23rd to shareholders of record at the close of business on December 10th. With that, I will turn the call back to the operator for questions.
- Q&A25:48
- Operator
We will now begin the question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question, please press star 1 to raise your hand. To withdraw your question, press star 1 again. Please limit yourself to one question and one follow-up. If you have further questions, please rejoin the queue. We ask that you pick up your handset when asking a question to allow for optimum sound quality. If you are muted locally, please remember to unmute your device. Stand by while we compile the Q&A roster.
Your first question comes from the line of Craig Siegenthaler with Bank of America. Your line is open. Please go ahead.
Question · BofA Securities
Craig SiegenthalerAnalyst · BofA SecuritiesHey, good morning, Dave.
Mike, hope you're both doing well. When I see flows that good, I got to congratulate you on that.
- David BrownChairman and CEO
Thank you, Craig.
So our first one is on the net flow disynergy potential. First, the first Eagle merger, you know, we've heard your commentary around the strategic distribution opportunities from putting their funds on the victory platform. But in the past, large asset manager combinations can also create near-term flow disc strategies. So how are you underwriting potential client attrition, consultant re-underwriting, product overlap, or distribution issues around the integration? And just remind us what's in bed. In your accretion assumptions. Yeah, I'll take the flow part and then Mike can talk about the accretion. I would first say that, you know, we've drawn, we've gone back on, you know, look at our. Previous acquisitions. And I think Pioneer is the best example. And we just did not see any flow disenergies based on, you know, the tactics we use. And if you look at how we do the. integration, how we work with, you know, putting the sales teams together, you know, in the way specifically the first Eagle products are distributed. We don't think there will really be any flow disenergies. Speak of or really anything that concerns us, you know, that platform has grown for the last three years, calendar years. It's positive year to date. The performance on. Most of the products are excellent. And we really think it's actually when we close, we think, you know, we'll hit the ground running and really be able to expand the distribution. So so our assumptions are really around.
Positive synergy as opposed to a dis synergy. And I think we have done eight acquisitions in the last 13 years and have learned a lot along the way and some things to avoid. And well. Put those things in practice as we, you know, as we, as we close at the end of the first quarter.
And I could jump in on the assumptions that we have in the accretion that we've put out there. You know, we have a, what I'll call a conservative normalized level of organic growth with respect to the combined organization. Dave mentioned that we anticipate the opportunity for revenue synergies and expansion based on putting the businesses together. We have not included that expansion in the accretion numbers. So it's a modest, very conservative view, single digits with respect to organic growth.
Thanks. And I think your stock is the top performing asset manager stock on a three, five year basis. So, you know, these deals have really worked well in your favor. My second one is a similar one, but a different angle. It's on retaining and motivating investment talent. But, you know, first Eagles value is really tied to the investment talent behind that franchise. Can you discuss the retention arrangements for the key investment teams? How much of their employee economics are rolling into victory? And also, what the long-term incentive structure looks like once any transaction-related retention awards run off? Yeah. Three, five-year, and actually since our IPO, we're the best-performing asset manager, Craig. As you know, but we'll use the same tactics we've used with all of our acquisitions on First Eagle. The teams will be on a revenue share, and then all of... ...of what they do will be exactly as we have with our other investment franchises, which has worked out really well from a retention perspective. The First Eagle investment professionals are excited. ...to join our platform. They're excited to be part of something larger. I think they're excited to come from a really great environment and continue that on our environment. So, you know, we will use real... ...nothing different than what we've used in the past, which has worked pretty successfully. And I think it's a proven group of incentives that we use and ultimately comes down to for these investors.
...franchise, and it will for First Eagle, is if they perform well, they have a great opportunity to grow their client list, to grow their assets under management. They have a great opportunity to kind of practice their craft. of investing in a really positive environment, and I think they enjoy coming in and then being incentivized if they're successful.
Question · BofA Securities
Craig SiegenthalerAnalyst · BofA SecuritiesThank you, Dave.
- Operator
Your next question comes from the line of Michael Cho with J.P. Morgan. Your line is open. Please go ahead.
Question · J.P. Morgan
Michael ChoAnalyst · J.P. MorganHi.
Good morning.
Thanks for...
Taking my questions. I just wanted to touch on flows. You gave some detailed commentary around the third quarter. You talked about broad-based strength. I just want to drill down a little bit on fixed income. And solutions. It seems like there's a real growth story. Sales emerging while redemptions are staying relatively consistent. I wonder if you could further unpack some of the inflection points or incremental demand. And any thoughts on near-term sustainability as we think about these two segments of your business that seem to be inflecting on the gross sales side? Thank you. Yeah.
- David BrownChairman and CEO
Good morning.
Let me start with the tail end of the question. The momentum we have seen in the third quarter has continued in the fourth quarter, and I think you'll see that from our AUM release when we do that for the October. So that has continued. And specifically to fixed income, Victory Income Investors and then Pioneer Investments is where you have the fixed income franchises. ETFs, institutional separate accounts outside the U.S. usage and accounts are growing. We really have a wide variety and collection. Of products that really address all of the challenges that are happening in the fixed income markets today, really supported with really good investment performance and longer term track records. There isn't one specific product. Or one specific vehicle on the fixed income side that we're seeing the majority of the flows. It's widespread. And we have a really, really deep lineup of fixed income products. On the solution side. Portion of the growth that we're seeing on the solutions side is from the Victory Shares ETF platform. A number of the ETFs have been created by the solutions team and are under the solutions umbrella. So we're seeing a lot of momentum there. Again, both of those areas, fixed income and the solutions and Victory Shares has continued in the fourth quarter. And really the same kind of momentum we've had in the third quarter, we have in the fourth quarter. I would also add that our multi-asset products have done well and the global equity, we've seen momentum as well inside the U.S. and outside the U.S.
Great.
Question · J.P. Morgan
Michael ChoAnalyst · J.P. MorganThanks, Dave.
Appreciate all that color. If I could just quickly follow up on C-Rate, Mike. You gave the annual guide. We're almost halfway through the fourth quarter. It seems like. The fourth quarter should see at the modest up, at least quarter to quarter, just based on the annual guide. And then if I just look into 27, you know, if there's anything you want to call in terms of the cadence of some of these annual, you know. much in terms of a quarterly cadence and anything else you want to call out in terms of the addition of the first legal assets. We can all try to back into some of the impact, but wanted to give you a chance to call anything out. Thank you.
Good morning.
Thanks.
- Management
Thanks, Michael.
- Management
Yeah, with respect to Q3 and then Q4, with respect to the fee rate, the decline from Q2 to Q3 really was with respect to some of the annual fees that were recorded in Q2. We had an excess of $50 million recorded in Q2. That number was significantly lower, about $500,000 in Q3. As we look forward for Q4, we'll see a modest uptick in fee rates, just based on what we anticipate for the fourth quarter. Hard to give specific timing. I think we've said that the first half of the year usually has the lion's share of some of those annual fees. that we record. But I think that's how to think about it. And I do think you're right. The guidance we've given is 46 to 47 basis points over the full cycle. And year to date, we're 46.3. And we kind of reiterated that guidance as we entered them. The fourth quarter here as well. With respect to First Eagle, the fee rate that exists at First Eagle is higher than the fee rate at Victory. And so post the transaction closing, we would anticipate our fee rate guidance to go up, really just as a math exercise of taking their higher fee rate and combining our fee rate together with the assets. We'll give a little bit more guidance as we get closer to it, but it should increase into the low. to mid fifties is kind of the expectation that's post the close of the deal, which is anticipated the end of Q1 next year. Great. Thank you.
- Operator
Your next question comes from the line of Benjamin Budish with Barclays. Your line is open. Please go ahead.
Question · Barclays
Benjamin BudishAnalyst · BarclaysHi, good morning, and thanks for taking my question. Maybe just following up on that last bit, Mike, it sounds like the expectation. These are pretty well understood for the sort of annual fees in the back half of the year. Could you maybe just remind us, what is the typical seasonality? I know first half should be a little bit stronger than second half. Was there anything unusual in Q2? Is that a decent guide? What Q2 of next year looks like? How much of those are tied to true sort of annual true ups versus performance based benchmarks? Would it be helpful to get a little more color given the magnitude of those fees in the last couple of quarters? Yeah, I think as we've said, if you look at it over the full course of a year, it's going to be single digit percentage of our total revenue. And they're really, as you as you highlighted, they're kind of true ups from an annual perspective with respect to mechanics that are both performance related, AUM related. They do tend to happen in the first half of the year, predominantly, although we do have some institutional clients that that crystallize, if you will, in other quarters as well. So it really is kind of a mixed bag, I would say. you saw for trend wise in 2026 by quarter is a fair representation. Obviously, the levels could change based on our investment performance, as well as some of the other mechanics that drive some of those fees. But I think is
- Management
as we sit here today. If you look at kind of the cadence for 2026, I think that's a fair representation going forward. Obviously, that will be subject to the completion of the first Eagle transaction, which may have some different dynamics as well, which we can give guidance on as we get closer. Okay, great. Very helpful. And then maybe just to follow up on the fixed income side, so another quite strong quarter for flows. I know in the last quarter, you talked a bit about like a strong one but not funded pipeline, although I don't think it was expected to be basically chunky. I'm just curious if you can give us an update there. How much of sort of what you had line of sight to ended up flowing in in Q3? Is there anything that, you know, you can share about Q4? Or is it truly just kind of broad based and a lot of things firing all at once? Thank you. So, so I think first on the, on the. Q4 kind of one, but not yet funded. It's fairly broad based. It's very strong. And I think if you looked at timing of it, it's fourth quarter, you know, and maybe the first quarter of 2020. And it's significant. And if you look at the different asset classes, you know, it's definitely fixed income, multi-asset, our solutions platform. We have some global and U.S. equity. As well. So it's so it's fairly broad based. It's across multiple franchises and multiple channels. It's truly reflective of where we were in the third quarter and how.
- Management
Assets came in across multiple franchises and multiple channels. The one but not yet funded mirrors that from from a, you know, if you look to channel franchise and kind of momentum. All right.
- Management
Thank you both.
- Operator
Your next question comes from the line of Michael's surprise with Morgan Stanley. Your line is open. Please go ahead.
Hey, good morning.
Thanks for taking the question.
Just wanted to ask on the international business with the AUM there approaching now, $66 billion or so. I was hoping you could unpack some of the drivers of the strength and growth that you're seeing across the country. The international side of the business, how much of the growth that you were speaking to from the acquisition of Pioneer would you say was from legacy victory related strategies that you have been distributing into the international side versus the growth from the Pioneer side. And just more broadly, I was hoping you can maybe give us an update on how the M&D partnership is progressing and your sort of goals, aspirations into 27 there. Thank you. Yeah.
Good morning, Michael.
So a couple of questions in there and. And let me take them piece by piece. The first is from a geography perspective, Asia, broadly speaking, continues to be very, very positive for us. Europe as well. And I think emerging in the Middle East, those three areas are the primary areas of growth for us. It's fixed income and global equity for the most. Part from an asset class perspective, although we are seeing some demand now for U.S. equities. And so, you know, those areas are the areas that are selling, you know, from a legacy victory. Or Pioneer, the majority of the assets today are coming in off of the Pioneer franchise. But what we're starting to see emerge, and this is exactly as we thought it would happen, is we are now getting the legacy. Victory products into the system, getting vehicles launched, we're presenting them to clients, and we're starting to see some of those gain momentum. And that's what really has us excited, is that you have an ecosystem of the Pioneer franchise and lots of different asset classes there and strategy selling. And you're starting to see the legacy Victory franchises product. Start to sell, but we have not seen the full impact of that yet. And I would also say as successful as we've been over the last 18 months, I still think that we are not even close to realizing the full potential. of outside the U.S. through the Amundi partnership on growth. So this is an area where we're super excited. We've invested pretty significantly here with people and focusing our team.
Time on getting out into the field and talking to clients and Amundi has done very well with growing their business and we're a beneficiary as well. So we're super excited about that. And as we look to 2027, I think this. We'll continue to grow at a faster pace than what our overall business will. And as we said, when we did the transaction, this was white space for victory. We didn't have a sizable business outside the U.S. today. We have clients in 62. countries. That's expanding. We now have some of our U.S. listed ETFs available outside the U.S., in Asia and in Latin America, which is just starting. And so we're pretty excited. about the opportunity outside the U.S. Great. Thanks. And then just to follow up on the robust and impressive gross sales in the quarter, over 30 billion. I was hoping maybe you could elaborate. a bit on the composition by channel and how that's evolving. And as you were speaking to the very strong pipeline ahead, how does that also compare from a channel mix standpoint? Thank you. I don't give numbers from a gross sales perspective per channel, but I would say that it was nicely distributed amongst the international institutional and what we call the intermediary channel, which is. U.S. retail. You know, all of those channels were positive net flows and had very strong gross flows. I believe all those channels grew quarter over quarter from a from a gross flow.
Perspective on the one but not yet funded again and looking in the fourth quarter, we see strong momentum in all of those channels. I don't think there's one channel that is. Dominating the flow profile. All of them have, you know, a lot of momentum and each of them have different kinds of buyers. And I think that the breadth and depth of our. Products really allows us to be successful in all of those channels. For example, outside the US, the demands by clients and even within different geographies, demands by clients are different than what might be inside the US and then inside the US on the institutional. And on the intermediary side, clients are demanding different things and we have a really wide product set to address them. So the third quarter's gross flow number, as you can see from the presentation, grew pretty. significantly. And as we, I think both Mike and I said in our opening remarks, that we think the levels we have today are more than enough to keep the organic growth. And I think the levels today are very sustainable from a gross flow perspective. Great.
Thanks so much.
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- David BrownChairman and CEO
Thank you. Before we close, a few items to note. We were publishing our October monthly AUM data on November 11th. As a reminder, our special meeting of stockholders to vote on the share issuance in connection with the First Eagle Investments transaction will be held on November 17th. We also have a very busy conference and roadshow schedule over the coming months, and we look forward to seeing many of you along the way. In the meantime, we welcome all of your questions and are very happy to connect.
Thank you for your continued support of Victory Capital, and we look forward to speaking with you. with all of you again soon.
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