NTCT earnings / call
NTCT earnings call transcript, November 5, 2026
NETSCOUT Q2 FY'27 Financial Results Call
Key takeaways from this call : results vs expectations, guidance, what analysts asked
- Management 43%
- Tony 27%
- Scott Dressel 1%
- Anil Singhal 0%
- Analysts 8%
Management
Tony
Management
9 min
Scott Dressel
VP of Corporate Finance
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Anil Singhal
President & CEO
<1 min
Analysts · 2
1 min
- K
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Transcribed automatically by Lician from the company's public webcast; it can contain errors and speaker names are best effort.
- Prepared remarks8:39
- Operator
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Thank you for standing by and welcome to NETSCOUT's second quarter fiscal year 2027 financial results conference call. At this time, all parties are in a listen-only mode. A question and answer session will follow the manager. As a reminder, this call is being recorded. If you require operator assistance at any time, please press star zero. I would now like to turn the call over to Scott Dressel, NETSCOUT's VP of Corporate Finance.
- Q&A11:18
- Operator
Scott, please go ahead.
Thank you, operator.
Good morning, everyone. Welcome to NETSCOUT's second quarter fiscal year 2027 conference call for the period ended September 30, 2026. Joining me today... They are Anil Singhal, NETSCOUT's president and chief executive officer, and Tony Piazza, NETSCOUT's executive vice president and chief financial officer. Please note that...
If you can advance the slides... ...in the webcast viewer to follow our commentary. Both the slides and the prepared remarks can be accessed in multiple areas within our investor relations section of our website at www.netscout.com, including the IR... ...in the quarterly results page. As discussed in detail on slide number three, today's conference call will include certain forward-looking statements about NetScout's views on expected results of future performance and business strategy. These statements speak only as of today's date and involve risks, uncertainties, and assumptions that may cause actual results to differ materially, including but not limited to those described in our company's filings with the Securities Exchange Commission. Including our annual report on Form 10-K and quarterly reports on Form 10-Q. Just in detail on slide number four, today's conference call will also include discussion of certain... ...financial measures that the company believes to be useful for investors. While the slide presentation includes both GAAP and non-GAAP results, other than revenue and balance sheet information, which are presented in accordance with GAAP... ...we will focus our discussion on non-GAAP financial information. These measures should not be considered in isolation from, or as a substitute for, financial information prepared in accordance with GAAP. Reconciliations of all non-GAAP metrics to the nearest GAAP measures are provided in the appendix of the slide presentation in today's financial results press release and on our website. I will now turn the call over to Anil for his prepared remarks.
- Anil SinghalPresident & CEO
Anil.
- Scott DresselVP of Corporate Finance
Thank you Scott and good morning everyone. We appreciate you joining us today. Our second quarter results were consistent with our expectations. The performance keeps us on track to achieve. our objectives for fiscal year 2027. Our continued focus on cost discipline support supported operating margin expansion from the prior year. We were also active in our shareholder at the end of the year.
Thank you Scott.
Thank you Scott.
Thank you Scott.
- Management
Thank you Scott.
- Management
The share for repurchase program during the quarter reflecting our commitment to returning capital to shareholders. With that foundation we are reaffirming our full year outlook. In October we hosted our annual engaged technology and user summit showcasing our newer solution. to more than 400 customers and partners. These innovations extend our scaleable DPI derived AI ready smart data into AI ops and agentic workflows as well as strengthen our cyber. security and DDoS attack protection portfolio. While customer AI adoption is still in its early stages, we view this as a strong long-term opportunity. As investment matures, we will be well positioned to expand.
- Management
For the second quarter of fiscal year 2027, total revenue grew 1.4% to $22.2 million, reflecting the timing of certain orders pulled into Q1 from Q2, as discussed last quarter. Operating margins expanded, and valued earning per share increased to $0.71. For the first offer, revenue grew. Nearly 7% to approximately $400, reflecting growth in both cybersecurity and service assurance. Gross and operating margins expanded, and valued earning per share increased to $1.
- Management
Now, let's turn to slide number 7 for some perspective on a business and some markets. Starting with service assurance, revenue increased approximately $1. it. the fiscal year, driven by the timing of strong federal government related enterprise customers continued to run to NETSCOUT to close the visibility gaps created by hybrid cloud automation and AI workloads. And we centered our solution. during the quarter. We expanded our data platform, which observes digital interactions and converts packets in real time into compact, contextualized evidence for observability, service assurance, cybersecurity, and AI. By applying early semantic extraction at the point of observation, our AI systems reason for natural data rather than inference. In our internal testing, this approach meaningfully reduced AI token consumption and mean time to knowledge, helping customers improve decision confidence and lower the cost of AI-driven analysis. We also launched InGenius Co-Pilot, a conversational AI extension to InGenius1 that turns natural language questions into evidence-based answers. Incredible. Our service provider customers remain focused on reducing network costs and complexity, as well as improving automation across fixed, mobile, and agile. Our 5G observatory solution gives them end-to-end visibility for standalone 5G networks and support emerging use cases, including fixed wireless access and network slicing.
- Management
Carrier spending... ...discipline and tight. Even so, customers continue to select next or to monetize their next generation network investment. Beginning in fiscal year 2028, we will rename service assurance as network observability. ...to better align with industry terminology. Network observability is the term of the industry now uses for these solutions, and the new name reflects how our customers see this part of our business, and the broader opportunity set our solutions as... Turning to cybersecurity, a revenue increase of approximately 4% in the first half of the fiscal year, reflecting contribution for more expanded hardware cloud capacity. Cybersecurity continues to be an important... ...long-term growth opportunity as the threat environment continues to intensify in our first half of 2020. ...to threat intelligence report released in October. We noted that high-capacity attacks are no longer anomalies and are now routine. Adversaries are increasingly using residential programs. Short-duration attacks and DDoS for higher services. This means customers require finer-grained network controls, selective mitigation, and more scrubbing capacity at the network edge. To address this expanding need, we have extended adaptive DDoS protection from attack target to its source by automatically detecting and mitigating outbound attack traffic, helping service providers stop compromise.
- Management
Subscriber devices before they disrupt their networks, consume costly capacity, or attack organizations across the internet. Secondly, we have enhanced arborized defense to identify attacks. Sources hidden behind content delivery processes, adding an independent layer of protection for enterprises revenue-generating applications without requiring CDN provider replacements. Providing AI, our packet-derived smart data differences, providing AI models, operational context needed for more effective reasoning and outcomes. Customers are buying AI solutions designed for service assurance and using them for cybersecurity applications, bringing the two areas closer together. In September, we unveiled Model Context Protocol, or MCP, connected... ...to our Omnis AI Insight solution. It gives AI assistants and agents on-demand access to AI-ready smart data. That's called real-time operational evidence, providing the trusted contacts they need to support more accurate and informed decisions. Customers can stream smart data into the platform they already use and without re-platforming. Defining their AI strategies, we are encouraged by the level of engagement. And expect adoption to build over time. Moreover, our install base and income base provides a meaningful advantage as programs move into production. That brings me back to Engage 2026. Our theme, Moving on.
- Management
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- Management
Your program will now resume. Mr. Dressel, go ahead. I apologize for the interruption. We have some technical difficulties. I know we'll continue where you left off. Yeah, I think I left... Then I started talking about Engage. So I'll start. So we started by talking about Engage 26. Our team moving from proactive to predictive spoke to how our customers are advancing beyond... ...monitoring to detect issues earlier, predict outcomes more accurately, gain greater insight, and automate more decisions. Our AI-ready smart data, our values, and our customer focus provide the trusted foundation... ...for that shift. With more than four decades of experience adapting to each area of technological change, expanding our purpose and innovation solutions, we are built to help our customers as their AI strategy. ...evolved. Turning to customer wins, we saw continued demand across both service assurance and network observability and cybersecurity offerings. New and existing customers invested in new solutions. ...and maintenance services. Second quarter highlights included wins from two long-standing customers. We secured a high seven-figure win with a leading U.S. financial institution to build out our... ...and customer-facing networks, as well as upgrade internal unified communication and network performance capabilities. The repeat business underscores the strength of our relationship and our mission-critical role ensuring the performance...
- Management
...millions of its digital environment, including large multi-cluster Kubernetes deployments. We also won a low seven-figure order with a leading global service provider that relies on our hardware products to deliver... ...manage DDoS service to its own customers. The customer purchases our adaptive DDoS protection solution, which leverages our Atlas intelligence feed to combat the increasing frequency... ...of DDoS attacks, including outbound and carpet bombing attacks, as it attacks to a rapidly expanding threat environment. With that, let's move to slide 8 and review our outlook. We remain focused on profit... ...healthy free cash flow generation, and long-term shareholder value. Based on our first-off results, we are reaffirming our full-year 2027 outlook. Customer remain disciplined in the future. ...spending, and we are managing the business accordingly. At the same time, we see meaningful long-term opportunity in network observability, AI ops, and DDoS attack protection. We'll keep investing in innovation, including... ...using our data and intelligence to power AI-driven workflows that enhance resilience and service reliability for our customers. We look forward to sharing our progress with you throughout the remainder of the fiscal year. Before I turn the call over to Tony...
- TonyManagement
I want to briefly address a leadership change recently disclosed. Sanjay Mishin designed as chief operating officer effective October 22. We thank Sanjay for his contribution to NETSOR and wishing well. Our experienced leadership team... customers and partners and members of their team have assumed additional responsibilities. We remain focused on executing our strategy, serving our customers, and delivering on our fiscal 2027 priorities. With that... I will turn the call over to Tony for a review of our financial performance.
Thank you, Inou, and good morning, everyone. We appreciate you joining us. I'll start by walking you through the key financial... metrics for the second quarter and first half of fiscal year 2027. After that, I'll share some additional commentary on our full fiscal year 2027 outlook, including some color on our expectations for the third quarter as a reminder. As a reminder, other than revenue and balance sheet information, which are on a GAAP basis, this review focuses on our non-GAAP results. All reconciliations with our GAAP results appear in the presentation appendix. I will note the nature of any such comparisons accordingly. Also, all comparisons on a year-over-year basis unless otherwise noted. Slide number 10 details the results for the second quarter and first half of fiscal year 2020. Focusing on the quarterly performance, total revenue increased to $222.2 million compared with $219 million in the same period last fiscal year. As a reminder, these results reflect the timing of government-related orders that were received earlier than anticipated and benefited the first quarter. Product revenue was $89.9 million, down 5.1%. Reflecting the timing of government-related orders, as mentioned. Service revenue was $132.3 million, up 6.4%. We ended the second quarter with total product backlog of approximately $20. $21 million, which included $15 million of fulfillable backlog. The gross profit margin was 80.9% compared with 81.4% in the prior year period.
Reflecting overhead costs associated with the DDoS asset acquisition. Quarterly operating expenses were $116.9 million, down 2.7% year-over-year. As we know, noted last quarter, the comparison benefited from our Engage User Summit shifting from the second quarter last year to the third quarter this year, along with continued cost discipline. Operating margin was 28.3% compared with 20 56.5% in the same quarter last year. We delivered net income of $52.8 million, or diluted earnings per share of 71 cents, compared with net income of $45.1 million. or 62 cents per diluted share in the year-ago quarter. The first half of fiscal year 2027, total revenue was $432.6 million. An increase of 6.6% and diluted earnings per share was $1.23 compared to $0.95 for the corresponding period last fiscal year. Let's turn to slide 11 where I will walk you through the key revenue trends by product lines and customer verticals. As a reminder, revenue presented is on a GAAP basis, and all comparisons continue to be on a year-over-year basis. For the first half of the year, we will be able to take a look at the results of a year-over-year basis. For the first half of fiscal year 2027, service assurance revenue increased by 8.2%, and cybersecurity revenue grew by 3.8%. During the same period, service assurance accounted for approximately 66% of our total revenue, and cybersecurity accounted for the remaining 34%. As Anil noted, beginning in fiscal year 2028, we will report service assurance as network observability.
Turning to our customer verticals for the first half of fiscal year 2027, enterprise revenue grew 9.1%, while service provider revenue grew 2.8%. During the same period, enterprise accounted for approximately 62% of our total revenue, and service provider accounted for the remaining 38%. Additionally, no one customer accounted for more than 10% of our revenue for the second quarter. or the first half of fiscal year 2027. Turning to slide 12, for the first half of fiscal year 2027, 57% of our revenue was generated from the United States. with the remaining 43% coming from international markets, which is consistent with the prior year period. Slide 13 shows key balance sheet items and free cash flow for the period. We ended the second quarter of fiscal year 2020. with $571.3 million in cash, cash equivalents, and short and long-term marketable securities, compared with $705.1 million at the end of fiscal year 2026. Free cash flow was a use of $17.8 million for the second quarter, driven by the timing of working capital. We repurchased approximately 2 million shares of our common stock. for approximately $77 million during the second quarter. We currently have capacity under our share repurchase authorization and subject to market conditions, intend to remain active in the market during the remainder. fiscal year 2027. From a depth perspective, we have no outstanding balance on our $600 million involving credit facility, which expires in October 2029. Let's move to slide four.
team for our fiscal year 2027 outlook and some additional color on the third quarter. As Anil noted, we are reaffirming the fiscal year 2027 outlook we provided last quarter. We continue to expect year over year growth in both revenue and earnings with the following assumptions for the full fiscal year. Revenue in the range of 885 to 915 million dollars. Non-GAAP EPS in the range of $2.65 to $2.80. A non-GAAP effective tax rate of approximately 20% and weighted average diluted shares outstanding of approximately 70. Four to 75 million. Next, let me provide some color on our third quarter outlook. As a reminder, last year's third quarter included approximately $15 million of revenue from the quarters that customers pulled forward from the fourth quarter, which makes, based on our current pipeline and the expected timing of customers' projects and orders, we expect third quarter revenue in the range of $200 million. $140 million to $250 million. Excluding the $15 million dollars pulled forward last year, that would imply growth in the low to mid-single digits. As mentioned earlier, third quarter off. Property expenses will also include the cost of our Engage User Summit, which shifted from the second quarter last year to the third quarter this year. As a result, we expect third quarter non-GAAP diluted earnings per share for Q&A. Q3 in the range of 90 to 95 cents. In summary, we continue to execute on our plan and remain focused on achieving our fiscal year 2027 objectives. Our capital allocation priorities remain consistent.
Investing in profitable growth, maintaining a strong financial position, and returning excess capital to shareholders over time, primarily through share repurchases. We believe NETSCOUT is well positioned to support as their network, security, and operations environments become more complex. Our expertise in network observability and cybersecurity, together with our AI-ready smart data platform, gives customers a trusted foundation for digital transformation. and AI-enabled operations. That concludes my formal review of our financial results and outlook. Before we transition to Q&A, please note that our upcoming investor conference schedule is provided on slide 15. We will be attending the RBC and Needham investor conferences later this month and the UBS conference in December. We hope to see many of you there.
Thanks again for joining the call. I will now turn the call over to the operator.
- Operator
Thank you. At this time, if you would like to ask a question, please press star one on your telephone keypad. If you wish to remove yourself from the queue, press star two. In the interest of time, we ask that you limit yourself to one question and one follow up. We'll take our first question today from Eric Supacher with B Riley Securities. Your line is now open. Yeah, thanks for taking the call and congrats on a good question. First off, any comment on what federal was in the quarter? It sounds like it was continued with some strict and then can you comment in terms of what growth you're seeing out of your smart data product? I think you've talked about that generating around 15 million last year. Any thoughts on what we might think about in terms of annualized growth in fiscal 20? Yeah, so just on the federal, so for the first half, federal revenue generally runs in mid to high single digits as a percentage of total revenue. So for the first half, it's running in, let's say, the low teens. So it's been strong in the first half. And we have a good pipeline going into the second half of the year. The thing with federal that we always caution is that the timing and magnitude of orders can be less predictable. So we do have a lot of good pipeline there. We're just looking at when the timing of the projects will hit in the quarters. Yeah, so I can talk about that. So last year's was the early adopter team and a couple of large
questions. customer made most of the smart data consumption and on this revenue. This year, as we mentioned, it's a long sales cycle, but we have a dramatic increase in funnel. But sales cycle are long. It's not clear right now. Maybe we'll have something more to share towards the end of the fiscal year, how much will be the growth in that. But the interest level and the traction on the funnel is just very, very impressive. Even all the analysts and customers that are engaging in were very excited about this area of growth for us. And I think, Eric, as we talked about, as we talked about. On a prior call, when we launched some of these AI, Omnus AI solutions, we did it to a select customer group as pilots and kind of working through some of it. So we recently reentered. Introduced it to the larger group at Engage. And like Anil said, there's been a lot of interest in it. But, you know, it does take a little time as customers work through their AI strategies and build it into their budget and stuff like that. Okay. Since you can't give me a growth on that, can you give us a sense on what kind of growth you're expecting out of the cyber product in fiscal 27?
Yeah, so I would say cyber, it'll probably be in the mid single digits for cyber. I think in the prior year, we did have some large customer refreshes that we're trying to work through right now. So in my sense, it's a mid single digits. And then for the AI product, Eric, whatever growth is there will be part of a service assurance. That's how we classify right now. Very good. Thank you. Excellent.
Thanks, Eric.
Thank you.
- Operator
Our next question comes from Soneka Merchant with RBC Capital Markets.
Your line is now open.
Question · RBC Capital Markets
Soneka MerchantAnalyst · RBC Capital MarketsHey, guys.
Thanks for taking my question and congrats on the quarter. This is Soneka on for Matt Hedberg from RBC. Could you talk a little more about the broader? Macroeconomic landscape and what demand trends have looked like? Thanks. Well, I think if you're, I mean, there are obviously uncertainty both in the U.S. and abroad. And so those are the external factors. The service provider spending continues to be tight and there is consolidation. Cut to three years ago it was. Sprint and T-Mobile. There are things happening in the European front. So that continues to create some challenges on the Middle East front. Our business is definitely impacted by a selected area.
- Management
Because of the war and other things there in certain countries. So that's the external view on the internal side. I think we can make up for this. Through the smart data platform and Omnis product which we announced recently. But because of governance issues and lot of hardware investment in AI. They are much longer sales cycle. So more effect of this will be seen. in the next fiscal year. But we are very excited about the pipeline we are building and the number of customers in the pipeline in a very short time. I think I think on the enterprise on the enterprise where you know we're. Some good demand there and good pipeline on the service provider as Anil said that that particular market has very disciplined spending is consolidation and stuff like that going on. But, you know, we see some we see the timing of a lot of the projects and some of the opportunities in front of us to offset some of this stuff. Got it. Super helpful, caller. Thank you. And just looking ahead, is there a path to sustainably accelerating revenue growth into maybe the high single digits or beyond over the next two to three years as we think about new product? And what the company is investing in across the business? Thanks.
- Management
Can you repeat the question? We couldn't hear very well. Oh, sorry about that. So just looking ahead. Um, with. On what you would say the key growth drivers for upside are in the next two to three years, is there a path to sustainably accelerating revenue growth, maybe into the high single digits or beyond, especially. As we think about new products and what the company has been investing in. Thanks. Yeah, so any upside is going to be directly tied to our AI solution and now Nathan, we think once the initial traction is. It takes off. We'll see that, first of all, it's a multi-year. Some of the stuff is sold as subscription. So we will be building ARR that results in more predictability and upside in the future. Also. We are not relying on one of the external factors which I forgot to mention earlier to your question of macro environment. There's a big challenge in the supply chain because of hardware. The costs are going through the roof. The server prices are two or three times where it was last year. What is great about our AI strategy is that we need very little new hardware. It's basically like a second floor on it. So all these factors that a lot of interest in our smart data pipeline build and as well as sales cycle challenges being over in the beyond beyond the next. to 12 months not requiring not dependent on supply chain issues and a lot of the pipeline build we have I think is the area where if there is upside it will be.
- Management
in there but we are already when we talk about single digit growth we are talking about so I think we are already on in the class right.
- Management
yeah so I would say that the two areas are we're optimistic about what we're seeing on the AI opportunities and the pipeline and then also the cyber. cybersecurity cybersecurity that landscape keeps changing and so we think there's good long term opportunities in that particular market as well and with regard to those comments on the inventory, as you saw on our balance sheet. We did build inventory as we look to navigate this particular supply chain challenge.
- Management
Got it.
- Management
Thanks, guys.
- Management
Super helpful. And congrats again. Thank you. Thank you.
- Operator
Our next question comes from Kevin Liu with K Liu and Company. Please go ahead.
Question · K Liu and Company
KKevin LiuAnalyst · K Liu and CompanyHi.
Good morning, guys.
Maybe just a quick follow up on that. Last comment you made, Tony. In terms of the inventory levels, it sounds like that's purely kind of should address any potential supply chain challenges. Just wanted to clarify whether there was any sort of timing in there that impacted that and whether we can consider this kind of a new normal for the amount of inventory you'd like to carry going forward. Yeah, no, I think it's a temporary increase in inventory relative to historical levels. So we believe the alternative could have exposed the company significantly to greater risk. But we expect inventory levels to normalize as the secured material is consumed and the supply conditions improve. Understood. And just wanted to double click a little bit on kind of the demand environment for service providers. You know, as you look to the back half, do you think kind of the pacing at which, you know, your pipeline can convert is fairly similar? And with some of, you know, the newer use cases, whether it's fixed wireless access or enabling AI compute at the edge, just wondering whether they're talking to you about those opportunities, and if you see that as kind of incremental to your existing service provider business? Yeah, so first thing is we are doing to stabilize the business, even if it is like make it more predictive, even if it increase the ASP slightly and So once we have done that, which we are in the process of doing, which we call the strengthening the first floor and foundation of our service assurance business with service provider, I mean we talked earlier about enterprise, then we can
- Management
go and layer the second floor. Right now we have focused
- Management
on the multi and equity. Understood.
Question · K Liu and Company
KKevin LiuAnalyst · K Liu and CompanyThanks for taking the questions and good luck here in the second half.
- Management
Thanks, Kevin.
Question · K Liu and Company
KKevin LiuAnalyst · K Liu and CompanyThank you. This does conclude today's question and answer session, as well as NetScout's second quarter fiscal year 2027 financial results conference call.
- Management
Thank you for joining today.
- Operator
You may now disconnect.