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MBGL-WI Q3 2026 earnings call transcript, November 12, 2026

Mobility Global's Third Quarter 2026 Earnings Conference Call and Webcast

  • Management 38%
  • Matt 8%
  • Analysts 26%
  • Operator 3%

Management

  • Matt

    Management

    3 min

Analysts · 7

Transcribed automatically by Lician from the company's public webcast; it can contain errors and speaker names are best effort.

  1. Prepared remarks0:01
  2. Excluding the prior period revenue true-up, underlying B2B growth was approximately 5%, in line with the first half on an organic constant currency basis. Transactional revenue was flat after declining in the second quarter. This included a portion of the recall revenue we flagged in August. However, this benefit was offset by sales and planning solutions deals that did not close in the quarter.

  3. Sales solutions growth led this segment, and as Bill mentioned, we won a major global OEM. for our core market reporting and recall data subscription products. In our sales business, we remain focused on expanding the market for automotive mastermind and related products, as well as reaping the benefits of combining B2B data, insight, and channel access with our Carfax assets. Planning solutions grew more slowly. With projects delayed earlier in the year still active, but in a challenging industry environment. We continue to expect B2B second half growth to be similar to that of the first half, which implies a more moderate fourth quarter, giving timing factors and a strong comparison to the fourth quarter of last year.

  4. Turning now to profitability, adjusted EBITDA in the third quarter was $195 million, up approximately 2% from the prior year period, at a margin of 41%. For the first nine months, adjusted EBITDA was $581 million, at a margin of 41%. Our third quarter was the first to carry the incremental corporate and infrastructure cost of being a public company. At a four-year run rate, we estimate these costs will reduce adjusted EBITDA margin by approximately 150 basis points in 2027, relative to our 2025 carve-out baseline. In this context, our margin... The business for the quarter were very much in line with what we had anticipated. We continue to manage our corporate and business costs well, allowing us to invest in growth and the stand-up of Mobility Global, while also delivering profit to the bottom line. At the segment level, our Carfax margin was approximately 49%, and our B2B margin was approximately... approximately 27%. These reflect stand-alone cost allocations for the first time, so they are not comparable to carve-out figures. The stand-alone allocation reduced Carfax's margin by approximately 30 basis points, and B2B's by approximately 550 basis points in the quarter. The appendix and earnings released... shows the amount allocated to each segment. Moving down the P&L, GAP net income was $42 million, down approximately 41% year-over-year. GAP net income included $16 million of one-time separation and stand-up costs, compared with $3 million in the prior year quarter, as well as $26 million of interest...

  5. ...on our bonds. Beginning this quarter, we are also reporting adjusted net income and adjusted diluted earnings per share. Third quarter adjusted net income was $119 million, and adjusted diluted earnings per share was $0.40. These numbers are fully reconciled to GAPs in today's... Our GAP effective tax rate was approximately 36%, inclusive of a meaningful amount of non-deductible compensation and restructuring costs. As a result, for full year 2026, we now expect a GAP tax rate of approximately 32%, compared with the 28% to 31% we indicated in August. When calculated on adjusted pre-tax income, however, our effective tax rate was approximately 28% in the third quarter. We continue to expect a medium-term effective tax rate of 25% to 27% when calculated on the same basis. Interest expense was $26 million in the quarter. In line with the approximately $55 million we guided for the second half. Stock-based compensation stepped up to $9 million in the quarter. As a reminder, we anticipate our stock-based compensation to increase over the next few years to be consistent with our public company peers.

  6. I will now move to cash. This is the first quarter in which our cash flow statement reflects a standalone business with our own interest, taxes, and one-time stand-up costs. We generated significant cash flow in the third quarter. Operating cash flow was $205 million in the quarter, and free cash flow was $186 million. These include one-time separation and stand-up costs paid in the quarter, but do not include any interest payment or payment for taxes accrued. We ended the quarter with $351 million in cash, gross leverage of 2.7 times trailing 12-month adjusted EBITDA, and net leverage of 2.2 times, down from 2.4 times. at the end of the second quarter. We continue to expect approximately $100 million in one-time stand-up and spin-related costs through the end of 2027, roughly half of which will occur in 2026. Our first cash interest payment of approximately $60 million, which includes the first half accrual, will be made in the fourth quarter. Payment for taxes accrued in the third quarter will occur either in the fourth quarter this year or in early 2027. As a reminder, our cash taxes are affected by the deferred tax liability associated with acquired intangibles from the S&P IHS merger. Because most of the related intangible amortization is not tax deductible. Our cash taxes will be approximately $80 million to $90 million higher annually than our GAAP tax provision would otherwise suggest for approximately the next 12 years until the amortization runs off. We believe that adjusted net income better reflects our tax profile as it excludes

  7. in tangible amortization. Moving to capital deployment, the strength of our balance sheet is a real strategic and financial asset. Our priorities for capital deployment remain organic investment, a growing dividend, and returning excess capital through share of purchases. We continue to expect no material M&A until our separation from S&P Global is complete. In August, we told you our immediate priorities were to fund the separation and stand-up of mobility global and to initiate a dividend. At the time, we did not expect to begin share purchases until early 2027. However, with increased- visibility in the cash generation and the cash needs of the standalone business, we now plan to initiate share purchases in 2026. To that end, our board has authorized a share purchase program of approximately $800 million. We are targeting repurchasing between $350 and $450 million of shares by the end of 2020. The strength of our anticipated operating performance supports this level of capital return, while also maintaining a sufficient cash balance and net debt to EBITDA ratio. Additionally, our board has declared our second quarterly dividend of $0.06 per share. Payable on- December 14th to stockholders of record at the close of business on November 30th. The annualized dividend rate is $0.24 per share. Finally, please turn to slide 11 for our outlook. We are maintaining our full year 2026 revenue guidance of $1.87.

  8. to $1.885 billion, representing year-over-year growth for approximately 6.9 to 7.7%. We continue to assume no incremental currency impact in the fourth quarter, no improvement in the macro environment, continued incremental momentum in Carfax, and B2B second-half growth similar to the first. We are raising the midpoint of our adjusted EBITDA guidance and now expect $750 million to $760 million, compared with $745 to $760 million previously. This implies a full-year margin of approximately 40% at the midpoint. The EBITDA increase reflects our third quarter profit performance and improved visibility into our standalone public company cost structure. We expect that the fourth quarter will be our lowest margin quarter of the year, as it was in 2025, reflecting seasonal spend patterns and another full quarter of standalone costs.

  9. Our other assumptions are also detailed on slide 11. Most notably, interest expense of approximately $55 million for the second half, a gap tax rate of approximately 32%, and cash taxes that are $80 to $90 million above the gap tax provision. We expect the business to continue building momentum. Gradually through Q4 and into 2027. Assuming no significant improvement in the macro environment, we anticipate making steady, incremental progress in the near term as we build towards the range of performance we outlined on investor day. In closing, we said in August that we were partway through a multi-year journey and that there was significant work ahead. This quarter was a solid step on that path. We were making meaningful progress on our strategic and operational priorities and continuing to build towards the future. We intended to keep doing that, quarter after quarter, delivering exceptional customer value that yields compounding in order to build towards the future.

  10. Q&A9:30
  11. organic performance and creates significant value for our employees, partners, and shareholders. With that, operator, please open the line for questions. Thank you. If you would like to ask a question, please press star 1 on your telephone keypad. A confirmation tone will indicate your line. is in the question queue. You may press star 2 if you would like to remove your question from the queue. And for participants using speaker equipment, it may be necessary to pick up your handset before pressing the star keys. Please limit to one question and one follow-up question.

  12. Operator

    Our first question comes from Tony Kaplan with Morgan.

  13. Question · Morgan

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    Tony KaplanAnalyst · Morgan

    Stanley, please proceed.

  14. Thanks very much.

  15. You mentioned in the B2B part of the business that you're expecting a more moderate 4Q and talked about the planning solutions maybe growing a little bit more slowly because of the environment. I was hoping you could just talk about, you know, what initiatives you're working on there to try to, you know, drive growth up. I know there's difficult comp and the timing that you called out, so maybe it's fine, but just wanted to understand that a little bit better and also just clarify more moderate than 3Q as it turned out or versus... the 5%, including the X, the true up. Thanks. All right. Well, Tony, thanks for the question. And I'll start with giving you a little bit of, you know, commentary on the B2B business. You know, it's the part of the business... That right now we are seeing some of the, you know, global, you know, macro conditions affect different parts of B2B. But, you know, the thing we're encouraged by is that, you know, as we're working with our customers, we aren't seeing a shift in demand. or a shift in need from our products. But we are seeing some timing issues across B2B. A number of our efforts right now, you know, in products like Data Studio and EEQ. are, you know, beginning to get traction. But, you know, they're in their early stages. You know, our mastermind product continues to do well in the marketplace. And so, you know, even though we're in a, you know, what I would call an uneven market, and, you know, we and our customers are navigating that.

  16. Management

    The demand for the products remains strong. And, you know, we're working through any of the, you know, sales cycle timing issues that we're dealing with. And, you know, I'll turn it over to Matt and just let him talk a little bit about the second part of your question.

  17. MattManagement

    Yeah, thanks. And Tony, if I understood your question, we do have expect Q4 growth to be, you know, moderated relative to Q3. You know, we said in the last call that we expected B2B growth to be flat sequentially first half to second half, and I think that remains true. I just add to what Bill said, you know, we do think there's some opportunities on the margin side. and B2B, and I think that's going to be a focus for next year as well. Great. And then maybe just in light of the changing way that consumers are doing their car research, you know, utilizing AI in different ways, is there anything you're considering doing differently? Any? Partnerships that you consider or just changes to how basically the products get sort of viewed or distributed, you know, to consumers? Thanks. Sure. And so, you know, on the consumer side, that's, you know, our Carfax business. And, you know, we've always been hyped. We're super focused on the consumer. You know, we're excited by some of these new channels that we see. And, you know, I think there are opportunities for consumers to shop in ways that they never have. When we look at, you know, some of the LLMs and, you know, consumer-facing AI. We think that's an incredibly exciting space. It's early. You know, we're seeing fairly low volumes right now. But, you know, we think that, you know, the opportunity for that to grow is there. And we are there, you know, in

  18. Q3, you know, we were the most cited automotive site in LLMs among our competitive set. And, you know, we saw the traffic from LLMs grow from Q2 to Q3. And, you know, the, you know, what we're doing is, you know, we have had part partners with, we have been partners with a number of these companies for many, many years. And, you know, we're, you know, granting access, you know, to our information and products on our terms, you know, to make sure that it's reputable agents and they're meeting our criteria and that the output for to the consumer or through that agent is Carfax branded. And we're able to do that. But the idea that we partner with OEMs and dealers to get our products into the hands of consumers doesn't change. So as we look at this new channel, we want to be there. We want to be a leader there. And as consumers use it more and more, we will see, you know, our, you know, delivery of information to consumers shift with that. So, but, you know, from a, you know, a business perspective, it's an incredibly exciting time to be serving the consumer in that space. Thank you.

  19. Operator

    Our next question is from Scott Wurtzel with Wolf Research. Please proceed.

  20. Question · Wolfe Research

    Hi, good morning, guys.

  21. Thank you for taking my questions. Good to see you on the. Carfax side, that the go-to-market changes are moving positively. Just wondering if you can talk a little bit more about, you know, the changes that you made and how that's resulting in, whether it's pipeline conversion, sales cycles changes, any more color on that would be helpful. Sure. And, you know, for, you know, just to kind of give a little bit of background. You know, on our go to market, you know, we had shifted in late 25 to really focusing on selling our lifetime package to dealers. And we had shifted both our approach to, you know. Go to market, you know, as well as our, you know, sales incentive. And out of the gate, it worked very well. In late Q2 last year, so June timeframe, it wasn't delivering quite where we wanted it to be. And we shifted back to selling the products on. on a la carte, one-by-one basis. And, you know, looking back, you know, we can see now that that was the right decision. You know, between Q2 and Q3, you know, we saw, you know, improved unit sales for all four of the Carfax Yeah, so, yeah. main dealer-facing products, so the Advantage product, listings product, service loyalty product, and our showroom product all had, you know, you know, increases in unit sales quarter over quarter. And so, you know, and I would just say that the energy and the results coming from that shift, you know, have been very, very positive. You know, and I would say that, you know, we've done a couple of other things. We've layered on a number of products in our homegrown product and our showroom product. And then

  22. Management

    we're also, we've added additional commercial capacity. We've added some new tools. We've added some new leadership to that part of the organization and feel really good about where that part of the business is going into 27. Okay, that's helpful. And then just as a quick follow-up on that kind of a similar topic, just on for your guy. implying a modest acceleration in Carfax revenue growth in 4Q. Is it really, is it a continuation of that, you know, momentum that you're seeing? Or is there anything else that we should consider, whether it's, you know, increased contribution from Europe or any other variables? No, I think it's what you said. It's, we saw, you know. Seeds momentum towards the end of Q2, as Bill said, you know, it built in Q3. And, you know, obviously, sometimes there's a bit of a lag between unit sales and fully realizing revenue. So that's the brunt of it. Europe continues to perform well, I would say, in line with our expectations. And we continue to... expect the Canadian market to be challenged. Great.

  23. Management

    Thanks, guys.

  24. Operator

    Our next question is from Anish Sabadra with RBC Capital Markets. Please proceed.

  25. Question · RBC Capital Markets

    Hey, good morning, guys.

  26. This is Will Chiyong for Ashish Sabadra. Appreciate you taking our question. Maybe just on the B2B, the subscription revenue growth, I think it was 8%, X2 up about 5%. You guys had noted winning a large global OEM to the B2B sales solutions. I guess when we try to parse out that growth, how much of a contribution was that large global OEM? And I guess when we think about it, a pipeline for additional global OEMs, how large of an opportunity is that? Yeah, I'll start and then Bill probably want to chime in. No contribution in the quarter. We expect that to begin rolling in next year, in fact. There's often a lag between when you sign folks up and it... It hits the books. Bill, I don't know if you want to talk about the overall B2B pipeline. Yeah, so we're really happy with the win. One of the things that was really encouraging is that on the B2B side, oftentimes we're working with a large OEM or supplier and these deals... come together over time as we, you know, really analyze their needs and what data they need and for what. And over the course of developing this one, it, you know, just organically, it came to light that some of the Carfax products and the dealer trust that Carfax has... could factor into the deal. And so the teams kind of work together. And, you know, this is the first solution on the B2B side that included components from both the B2B side and the Carfax side. And the way I would put that is it was really the industry leading data on the B2B side that won the OEM over.

  27. Management

    But it was some of the Carfax things that just really differentiated the offering even further. And so that's encouraging. As we look, you know, to our first Mobility Global. The product teams from Mastermind and Carfax are working on some of those offerings now that we will see in 27. But this just happened organically. And I think it starts to lay a framework for us to work on in the 27 for bringing the data from across the business. into a major OEM and really, you know, answering their needs. So it's a multi-year deal. And, you know, I think that there's an opportunity for us to go back into a lot of the OEMs that we're doing work with and just expand the relationship. So. Got it. Thank you. That's very good to hear. And then maybe just as a follow up on the international side and Carfax, I know Canada kind of still has a tough macro, but Europe seems to be showing some pretty solid growth up double digits. I wonder if you could maybe parse a little bit more on that growth across some of the major segments. I know you guys are in Spain, Italy, Poland. I don't know if any other kind of additional color on early traction on Germany would be helpful as well. Sure. If you remember back to investor day when we laid out our three growth vectors, we said we were going to be enhancing our core products, launching new products, and then international growth. When I think about what we've been able to do in that respect, I'm really proud of the team. In just the last six months, we've launched Carfax Homegrown. We've launched Mastermind Service to Sales. We've launched Carfax Showroom.

  28. Management

    And soon... We'll launch Mastermind Marketing Lab. And these products are hitting and selling and enhancing, whether it's a core offering that we have installed today or something like Showroom, where we're selling something new. On the international front, we were able to launch Germany... Getting a Q3 about six months early. And the European market is, you know, equivalent to the U.S. market, but for our business, it is just getting started and it's early. I feel we have a great product in Germany. We have a solid product in Italy. We have a... solid product in Spain and a number of other countries. And we are doing the work to build that dealer network and, you know, sell dealer packages into that network. And so I was encouraged by the fact that in Q3, we started selling those packages. But I would also say that it's... very early. And if I think of the arc of, say, some of those products I mentioned that we were rolling out in the U.S. and the arc of Europe, Europe is a much longer arc and will take a little bit longer to really start having material impact. But the size of the opportunity is significant. And so we are really encouraged by the early signs out of Germany. We've taken what we've done in the U.S., which built an industry-leading dealer network. We've done the same thing in Canada. We're now doing that in Europe. The only difference is in the U.S. and in Canada, we did it by physically going and visiting.

  29. Management

    dealers and supporting that with phone. We are doing a digital first in Europe supported by phone so that, you know, I would say it's an AI-first cap light approach, and the early signs of that are very positive. So I'm very encouraged by Europe, but there's a lot of work to do there. We'll continue to keep you updated on how that's going. Thank you. Appreciate the call.

  30. Operator

    Our next question is from Manav Patnick with Barclays. Please proceed.

  31. Question · Barclays

    Manav PatnickAnalyst · Barclays

    Hi, good morning.

  32. It's Waheed Amin on Fermanov. There seems to be a lot happening. across homegrown marketing lab and some of the newer dealer products. As you look across the pipeline, how should we think about the contribution from new products becoming a bigger piece of the growth algorithm over the next few years? Yes. So I would say that if you think of the growth algorithm that we laid out at investor day and eventually getting to that 7.5% to 10% in the medium term range, it really had three components to it. One was 5% to 7% from the core, another was 1% to 2% from new solutions, and then another was 1% to 2% from international. And I think that the two products that you mentioned, Homegrown and Marketing Lab, are really fortifying that core and adding value to that core and will help in things like boosting retention. It will drive some new signups, but it really is creating value in the core products that we offer today. Something like Showroom or some of the others that we will add over the course of 27 are new products, and those new products are feeding that 1% to 2% of new solutions, and I think we will see impact there sooner. Then we will on the 1% to 2% from international. I think the 1% to 2% from international, as I mentioned, is really a massive build, and I think the team is moving extremely fast or ahead of schedule, but we are building big dealer networks across Europe. and putting product through that, and so I'm encouraged by everything I'm seeing there, but when I think of launching something like Showroom, that's something that we launched in Q2 and are already seeing traction in that product, and that product could have impact.

  33. Management

    on, say, 27. Yeah, to get to where we want to be and get to the midpoint to the high end of the range we put out at Investor Day, you know, proportionally, we are going to need a greater proportion of our growth to come from the second and third buckets, as Bill just described, so... You know, a major focus of ours this year, or 2027, is going to be ramping up the number of SKUs we have, new product lines, vectors for growth, and then as Bill said, you know, continuing not just to lay the foundation internationally, but to try to create more of an inflection point.

  34. Management

    Thank you. And on Canada, I appreciate the environment being pretty challenging, but excluding that, can you give us a sense of what you're seeing in the underlying business and how you're thinking about the growth opportunity there if the market backdrop remains relatively soft? Yeah, our subscription base in Canada is held. Obviously, it's impacted by the Canadian dollar, but I think that part of our business has performed well. Transactional was essentially flat in Q3. That's half of our business in Canada. We believe that we are well positioned there. The team is working on some additions to their product suite, but the Canadian market will come back. It's just a question of when, not if. As I said, we're not anticipating in the near term any change to the market environment. I think we could argue that it got sequentially worse from Q2 to Q3 for us, but we feel very comfortable with our long-term positioning in Canada. Thank you.

  35. Operator

    Our next question is...

  36. Question · Hoover Research Partners

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    from Craig HooverAnalyst · Hoover Research Partners

    It's from Craig Hoover with Hoover Research Partners. Please proceed.

  37. Management

    Great. Thank you. My first question, can you talk a little bit further about the sales momentum you guys have built up here in recent months, the way your outlook is here? I'm trying to get to... You've talked about in the past, you're thinking for 2027... assuming the macro environment does not improve, that you could actually see some acceleration in your base business next year. Just, again, talk about the sales momentum you're building up here. Thank you. Yeah, and obviously we're not talking about, say, 2027, but I'm happy to talk about... you know, how we're, you know, entering or how, you know, how I see us ending this year. And so, you know, I would say that in the Carfax business, the commercial organization, you know, we've done a couple of things. We've, in addition to... shifting that go-to-market strategy. You know, as we talk about, you know, infusing AI everywhere in the business, you know, one of the things that we did is we've pointed some of those AI teams at our... our growth vectors. And so one of those places is that Carfax go-to-market and providing anyone in that part of our organization with tools, information, and really streamlining their ability to spend more time selling versus preparing to sell. We've also brought in a number of... of new leaders in that organization. And then, you know, last but not least, we've added more people to it. So I feel like we have more capacity, that we are better tooled, and we have, you know, a strong leadership team in place to enter 27. So, you know...

  38. Management

    I feel like, you know, the improved execution, if you will, the new products that we're layering on that, you know, some of the early stuff that we're seeing from bringing One Mobility Global together, you know, kind of says to me that we're building toward... entering 27 with good momentum in the Carfax sales organization. Great. And my second question, if I could, on the AI front, I mean, a lot of companies out there are obviously leaning very heavy into AI, not only to enhance their products, obviously, but to help... on the efficiency side, help out the margins and stuff. Is it too early for you guys to say, potentially, how much AI is saving you, saving costs here, helping your margins? Can you quantify at all the annualized cost savings for AI, or is it just too early for you guys to talk about that publicly? Yeah, and I don't know if... that it's too early. You know, when I think about, you know, the way we're executing with AI, it's really hard to separate AI out. And, you know, it's becoming such a part of everything that we do. You know, so we have launched enterprise tools across the business. So that every single employee we have has, you know, enterprise AI tools that they're working with, that are increasing their efficiency and their productivity. You know, but, you know, I would say that, you know, we started really by enhancing our, you know, our strategy. strategic assets, then shifting toward how AI can help us either enhance our existing products or create new ones, and we're seeing that, you know, take effect. And then, you know, when I think of, you know, really driving our three growth vectors, you know,

  39. Management

    we currently have, you know, some of our leading AI teams focused on those growth vectors. And so if you said to me, you know, Bill, is your priority more on the, you know, efficiency side? Or is it on enhancing your assets, growing your products, and, you know, driving the growth of the business? That is where we have focus first while putting those tools in the hands of all employees to create those efficiencies. And I think we will see them, like most companies, over time. And I think that... A lot of those efficiencies will become table stakes in that if you are not using those tools, you won't be competitive. And we are becoming more efficient, just to build on what Bill said. I think we put a bridge in the earnings presentation to show that we are getting operating leverage out of the business. It's somewhat masked. Because obviously we're growing our standalone public company infrastructure. But we think that as that begins to settle, call it in mid-27 and certainly as we build towards 28, it's going to give us a platform where we can generate that much more operating leverage out of the business. And that's why I think. From an efficiency standpoint, you'll really more clearly see the impact on our bottom line margins. Great.

  40. Management

    Thank you both.

  41. Operator

    Our next question is from Jason Haas with Wells Fargo. Please proceed.

  42. Question · Wells Fargo

    Jason HaasAnalyst · Wells Fargo

    Hey, good morning.

  43. Again, thanks for taking my question. I'm curious, particularly for your B2B business, if you're seeing AI create more demand for your data, does AI make your data more valuable to your customers? And if so, what are the methods and ways in which you can better monetize that? Thank you. Yeah, sure. You know, I would say that we're seeing it really across the industry, but definitely in our B2B business and as, you know, the ROEMs and suppliers develop their AI strategies and, you know, models and they want our data to help feed. those and help them with their decisions. We're seeing it on the dealer front through automotive mastermind and, you know, you know, dealers wanting, you know, us to come in and work with them, you know, to deploy, you know. Depth and breadth of the mobility global data to help them identify, you know, who's going to buy, when they're going to buy, what they're going to buy, and do that in the most efficient way possible. And so, you know, we're seeing it all over the industry. And so, you know, and we're working with them, you know, in some cases, you know, we're providing them data that can help them with those efforts. And in other cases, that work is being done on our platforms in order to help them identify whether it's, you know, the right places to . direct incentives or, you know, the right consumer to market to at a given time and the right message to deliver. And so, yeah, the demand is very high. And I think that the way we're capturing it is twofold. One, by providing them with the data that they need in order to operate. And on the flip side,

  44. Management

    providing them with the platform that contains the data across Mobility Global, where we can serve as the agent that brings their data, other market data, and our data all together to allow them to do something, whether that's incentives or, you know, marketing.

  45. Management

    That's great to hear. Thank you. And then as a follow-up question, I just wanted to ask on the implied 4Q margins. It looks like, you know, 3Q margins were down year-over-year quite a bit, and I believe that's the public company cost coming on. But then it looks like the implied margin for 4Q actually implied them up year-over-year. I'm not sure if there's maybe like an easy compare in 4Q of last year that creates that, but just, yeah, if you can comment on why they're implied to be up year-over-year, that'd be helpful to try to understand that dynamic. Yeah, I'll take that. Look, Q4 is typically our heaviest spend quarter, right? If you look back last year and in previous years, we spend proportionally more in Q4, right? Typically our lowest margin quarter. That said, we did see from a timing perspective some cost shift from Q3 into Q4. So you've got it pegged accurately. Okay, that's great. That makes sense. Thank you.

  46. Operator

    Our final question is from Andrew Steinerman with J.P. Morgan. Please proceed.

  47. Question · J.P. Morgan

    Hi there.

  48. I just wanted to ask what the implied organic constant currency growth ranges for the fourth quarter, like what's your FX, you know, assumption, you know, on revenue? It's been used in the fourth quarter. And then also, I just want to make sure I got a phrase right. Matt, you mentioned timing factors affecting the fourth quarter. I think you were talking about planning solutions, but if it was a different product, could you just call that out?

  49. Management

    Yeah. From a timing perspective, it was largely in planning solutions. We had a couple of deals in sales solutions shift as well. We did get a meaningful portion of the recall revenue that was pushed from Q2 into Q3 in Q3. But that was offset, potentially more than offset by a couple of things slipping to the right. On an OCC basis, we're not expecting in Q4 any impact of FX, so you can do the math, but it's give or take... 7% at the midpoint. I think it's in the low sevens. Okay. Okay.

  50. Management

    Thank you, Matt.

  51. Operator

    There are no further questions at this time. I would like to turn the conference back over to Bill for closing remarks.

  52. Thank you for joining us today. We are pleased with the... the progress that we are making, and we look forward to spending time with many of you in the months ahead. Thank you. This will conclude today's conference. You may disconnect at this time, and thank you for your participation.

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