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GXO Q3 2026 earnings call transcript, November 4, 2026
Q3 2026 GXO Logistics Inc Earnings Conference Call
Key takeaways from this call : results vs expectations, guidance, what analysts asked
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- Analysts 16%
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- Prepared remarks2:22
Welcome to the GXO Third Quarter 2026 Earnings Conference Call and Webcast. My name is Kevin and I'll be your operator for today's call.
- Operator
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Later, we will conduct a question-and-answer session. If anyone wants to require operator assistance during the conference, please press star zero on your telephone keypad. Please note that this conference is being recorded. Before the call begins, let me read a brief statement on behalf of the company regarding... the forward-looking statements, the use of non-GAAP financial measures, and the company's guidance. During this call, the company will be making certain forward-looking statements within the meeting of applicable securities laws, which, by their nature, involve a number of risks, uncertainties, and other factors that could cause actual results of different materially from those projected in forward-looking statements. A discussion of factors that could cause actual results of different materially is contained in the company's SEC filings. The forward-looking... statements in the company's earnings release are made on this call, are made only as of today, and the company has no obligation to update any of these forward-looking statements except to the extent required by law. The company also may refer to certain non-GAAP financial measures as defined under applicable SEC rules during the call. Reconciliations of such non-GAAP financial measures to the most comparable GAAP measures are contained in the company's earnings release and the related... ...financial tables are on its website. Unless otherwise stated, all results reported on this call are reported in the United States dollars. The company will also remind you that its guidance incorporates business trends to date and what it believes today to be appropriate assumptions. The company's results are inherently unpredictable and may be materially affected by many factors, including fluctuations in foreign exchange rates, changes in global economic conditions...
...and consumer demand and spending, labor market and global supply chain constraints, inflationary pressures, and the various factors detailed in its filings with the SEC. It is not possible for the company to actually predict demand for its services, and therefore actual results could differ materially from guidance. You can find a copy of the company's earnings release, which contains conditional important information regarding forward-looking statements and non-GAAP financial measures. and the investor section of the company's website. I will now turn the call over to GXO's Chief Executive Officer, Patrick Kelleher. Mr. Kelleher, you may begin.
- Patrick KelleherManagement
Good morning, and thank you for joining our third quarter 2026 results call. Joining me today are Mark Susinski, our Chief Financial Officer, and Christine Kabaki, our Chief Strategy Officer. I'm pleased that we're beginning to see the results of the strategy we set in motion over the past year. Stronger commercial performance, improving North America business, and a growing technology lead that we're enabling across our network. The headline for the quarter is simple. Organic growth accelerated to its fastest pace in over three years. Adjusted EPS grew 13% year over year, and our commercial engine delivered another quarter of strong wins with a record pipeline supporting our continued growth. Starting on slide four, our performance through the first nine months keeps 2026 firmly on plan. We are delivering financial results while investing in the capabilities that will accelerate growth. And our leading indicators for 2027 are wins, our pipeline, and the revenue we've already secured continue to build. In the third quarter, revenue was $3.6 billion, up 5.7 percent. with organic growth of 6.4 percent. Adjusted EBITDA was $251 million, in line with prior year, and adjusted diluted EPS was up 13 percent. Mark will walk through the details shortly. And year-to-date, approximately 40 percent of our new business wins have come from our strategic growth verticals, which include data centers, A&D, life sciences, and industrials.
Moving to slide five, commercial momentum continued in the third quarter. We signed 375 million of new business wins, up 34 percent versus the prior year, our second consecutive quarter of this level of growth, led by our largest global accounts and our strategic growth verticals. Looking into the fourth quarter, we expect new business wins to again show strong growth year over year. Our wins are also turning into revenue faster, and we're carrying that momentum into next year. We expect to enter 2027 with more than $850 million of incremental revenue from new business wins. That's ahead of the $774 million we had entering 2026, and the highest level we've ever carried into a new year. Through the end of the quarter, signed wins have exceeded $1 billion, nearly matching what we won in all... of 2025, with a quarter still to go. And even after a quarter of rapid conversions, our sales pipeline grew to a record $3.1 billion at quarter end, up more than 30% year-over-year. North America led that growth, and our pipeline across the UK and Europe also grew. Wins are also weighted more heavily towards the strategic growth verticals and multi-region customers we are targeting. Mark and Christine will discuss our financial results and commercial wins in more detail shortly. Moving to slide six, we are making excellent progress on our three priorities, a new commercial playbook, strengthening operational excellence through the GXO way, and advancing our technology leadership through automation and GXO IQ, our warehouse AI platform.
First, on commercial, we believe the result I just walked through are the clearest evidence that our new commercial playbook is working. We're winning more, and we're winning across both core and strategic verticals. In the third quarter, we won new business and expanded relationships with blue chip customer brands, including Applied Materials, Boeing, NetApp, Unilever, and L'Oreal. Our core business continues to grow alongside our strategic vertical. One of our largest wins in the quarter was with the leading UK online fashion retailer, and as in the second quarter, we had sizable e-commerce wins in Europe. North America remains our biggest opportunity, and it is where the execution of our new playbook is most visible. Our pipeline there is up more than 80% year over year, and we are converting more of it. Across our Americas and Asia Pacific region, new business wins so far this year have already exceeded the total for all of 2025, and we're winning larger, more complex mandates than we were a year ago. In the quarter, we again saw strong momentum with our technology and data center customers, where we see no signs of slowing and there are more RFPs in the market than ever. We're also building out our aerospace and defense capabilities, including the recent appointment of former military and defense industry veteran Dan Davis to lead the vertical. A West Point graduate and former U.S. Army Field Artillery Officer, Dan brings a rare combination of military experience, industrial experience, and commercial leadership. Second, operations. We launched the GXO Wave playbook across more sites, and we've begun rolling out a unified labor management.
System with rollouts now live in the U.S., U.K., Netherlands, Poland. We expect these to start delivering productivity benefits in 2027. We've also advanced our global procurement strategy to unlock cost savings across our site. Third, in technology, GXO IQ is now live across all three of our regions, and we remain on track to meet or exceed our target. We've targeted roughly 50 sites deployed in 2026. We've also expanded our technology organization around two mandates. Balaji Ragaswamy, our new chief information officer, is strengthening the enterprise systems that serve as the foundation that lets us scale, while Nazar Trigui, our chief technology officer, is accelerating AI, automation, and robotics across our network. So, to bring it together, we delivered a strong third quarter. We are accelerating organic growth and see continued commercial momentum through the end of the year and into 2027. Our three strategic initiatives across commercial, operations, and technology are moving from plan to execution, and we're pleased with the results we've seen today. And we will have more to share on what's driving that momentum at our Investor Day on November 6th. at the New York Stock Exchange. This quarter is early evidence of the plan we'll discuss in full that day. The leadership team and I will take you through our long-term strategy, where we see GXO growing, our technology and automation roadmap, and our financial framework and capital allocation priorities. We look forward to seeing many of you in New York, and for those who can't join in person, the event will be webcast live.
With that, I hand the call to Mark. Thank you, Patrick, and good morning, everyone. Strong commercial momentum is beginning to drive an acceleration in our organic growth. We delivered a solid third quarter, our fastest organic growth in over three years, adjusted EBITDA in line with our expectations, and double-digit growth in adjusted EPS.
- MarkManagement
Turning the slide. GXO delivered third quarter revenue of $3.6 billion, up 5.7% year over year, and up 6.4% organically, with contributions from all of our regions, including strong growth in the UK, our largest market, and our fastest growth in North America and Asia Pacific in more than two years. By vertical, technology and consumer... electronics led the way, with revenue up 19%, driven by the rapid growth in data centers. We delivered adjusted EBITDA of $251 million in line with the prior year and an adjusted EBITDA margin of 7%. Sequentially, adjusted EBITDA increased by more than $30 million and margin expanded by about 60 basis points versus the second quarter. The third quarter year-over-year margin... ...reflect startup costs on the new business we're onboarding, with more of this year's wins going live within the year, along with investments in our commercial organization, our labor management system, and GXOIQ that we expect to deliver productivity benefits in 2027. Net income was $65 million and adjusted EPS was $0.89, up 13% year-over-year. Adjusted EPS grew faster than adjusted EBITDA primarily... primarily on lower tax rate and a modestly lower share count. Moving to slide eight. In the quarter, we generated operating cash flow of $156 million and free cash flow of $85 million. Year-over-year, free cash flow primarily reflects the timing of our ERP implementation, as well as higher net capex than the third quarter last year. Consistent with the prior year, we expect the fourth quarter...
...to be our strongest cash generation quarter of the year, and we remain on track to deliver our full-year free cash flow conversion target. Turning to the balance sheet, we ended the quarter with $340 million of cash, total debt of $2.8 billion, and net leverage of 2.7 times. During the quarter, we repurchased $84 million of shares, bringing year-to-date purchases to $100... million for 2.1 million shares, and an average price of $47.46. That leaves $200 million remaining under our existing authorization. With an investment-grade balance sheet, we have the flexibility to keep investing in high-return organic growth, continue to delever, and return capital shareholders, and we will stay disciplined in how we balance the three. We completed the divestment of Wincanton's dedicated grocery business in the U.K., and the Wincanton integration is now substantially complete. As we close the year, we are delivering run-rate cost synergies of $60 million. Turning to our full outlook on slide nine, we're reiterating our 2026 guidance. Organic revenue growth of 4% to 5%, adjusted EBITDA of 9%. $945 million to $965 million, adjusted diluted EPS of $2.95 to $3.15, and free cash flow conversion of 30% to 40%. We enter the fourth quarter with new business ramping, our productivity programs gaining traction, and a cost base we are managing tightly, which sets us up for a solid finish to the year.
Behind that, the shared... The systems we have been putting in place from a single operating dashboard and labor management tools to global procurement data gives us one way of running the network, which we believe will turn faster growth into higher margins over time. With that, over to you, Christine. Thanks, Mark. Good morning, everyone. I'd like to spend a few minutes on the drivers behind our commercial momentum and on the future growth we have already secured. Turning to slide 10, even with winds up more than 30% for the past two quarters, our pipeline has continued to build. North America has been the biggest driver, with its pipeline up more than 80% over the past year to around $1.3 billion, while our pipeline across the UK and Europe also grew to around $1.7 billion. As a reminder, the pipeline naturally fluctuates as we convert opportunities into winds. Yet the year-over-year trend is clearly moving in the right direction. Growth was broad-based. Third-quarter wins in our strategic growth verticals were nearly three times the prior year level, led by technology and data centers. And year-to-date, they account for approximately 40% of our wins. At the same time, our core continues to grow. We have sizable wins in e-commerce and retail. Both the UK and continental Europe. Our new commercial playbook and aligned strategic priorities position us to grow across our strategic verticals while maintaining focus on our core.
Moving to slide 11, I want to highlight our revenue visibility. From the business we've signed, we've secured more than $1 billion of incremental revenue for 2026, a record. And we've already built $630 million. of expected incremental revenue for 2027. We added $267 million in the third quarter alone versus $206 million in the same quarter last year. With the continued growth in the fourth quarter wins that Patrick described, we are confident we will exceed the prior year figure and enter 2027 with more than $850 million of incremental revenue already secured. A record level. That growth comes from three sources. Year-to-date, about 33% of our wins came from competitors, 41% from new activity with existing and new customers, and 26% from customers outsourcing for the first time. This level of visibility gives us confidence in the durability of our growth and in the predictability of our cash flow and future earnings it can generate. To wrap up, our commercial engine is firing on all fronts. We are expanding our relationships with the world's largest brands in our core, and we are building real scale in faster-growing strategic verticals. With a record pipeline, wins on pace to exceed last year's total, and a growing base of secured revenue for 2027, we carry strong momentum into the fourth quarter. Thank you, and with that, I will hand the call back over to the operators.
- Q&A19:43
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- Operator
Our first question today is coming from Stephanie Moore from Jeffries. Your line is now live.
Question · Jeffries
Stephanie MooreAnalyst, JeffriesGreat. Good morning. Congrats on a nice quarter here. I guess starting with the organic growth performance. So, as you noted, organic growth accelerated to over 6% in the quarter, and the pipeline has grown pretty meaningfully since even the beginning of the year. So I think what's interesting as I look at this is, I guess the momentum. appears to be generated before you've really seen the full benefit of a lot of your actions. Obviously, you called out the new chief commercial officer, the commercial playbook in place. So I guess what extent do you view the momentum we're seeing today as just kind of the beginning of this commercial reset? And then how much confidence do you have that this growth can continue to accelerate as these initiatives mature? And what should we be really looking for there as these initiatives mature? Thanks. Yeah, sure, Stephanie. I'll kick off and then Mark will provide some additional commentary. I think you're absolutely right. In our business contract logistics, we're about a six-month sales cycle. And so the results that we're seeing are really the results of initiatives that we kicked off when I joined about 14 months ago, our focus especially on North America, our emphasis on the strategic B2B verticals, most notably aerospace and defense and technology where we're seeing great progress on business wins there for business of retail, consumer, omni-channel, and CPG where we see great growth. And so the focus on North America, the focus on the strategic verticals has been additive.
- ManagementManagement
To the organic growth agenda with the six-month sales cycle, we are really in the beginning of the acceleration of that agenda. We had over 30% year-on-year increase in contract wins in Q2. We signaled we would achieve that in Q3 and we did. And I can signal today that we will achieve that acceleration in Q4 through the end of the year. So really confident as we step into 2027. We're going to continue to drive improvements in organic growth in the business, both on the new business wins as well as customer retention. Mark, maybe you want to comment on a few of the organic growth metrics that we're seeing. Sure, Patrick. And good morning, Stephanie. Just to provide maybe a little bit of color on the organic growth and the momentum that Patrick just talked about. You know, and as we just discussed, 6.4% organic growth in the third quarter. I'm trying to give you a little bit of a look ahead into the fourth quarter and how we see it. You know, we expect 4Q organic growth to be slightly above 5% with the assumption of flat volumes. Now, in comparison, Q3 organic growth reflects a 1% volume benefit. So, you know, we've guided all year with the assumption that volumes are flat. We think that's prudent to do that. But we do know that fourth quarter peak season, holiday season, is a good one for our industry. And so if volume trends hold during the fourth quarter, you know, we could see organic growth similar to the type of growth that we posted here in the third quarter. So I just wanted to decompose the organic growth assumptions for our listeners on the call.
So, and the final thing I'd add to that... is we see ourselves exiting the year at 850 million plus, so more than 850 million...
And our pipeline is 3 billion today and growing, and I think what is most exciting about the 3 billion pipeline is that it is diversified across all of the industry sectors that we participate in, 40% of that pipeline in our B2B industry verticals, where we're putting a lot of emphasis on growth. So, all of the components are in place. We've got the projects to work on to deliver the organic growth that we're talking about, and that is... is why we have such great confidence going into Q4 and into 2027.
Thank you. Very clear. And just one quick follow-up. As we think about those strategic growth verticals in the B2B space, obviously, I think we can understand the TAM of those verticals and the growth opportunity, but is there anything you would like to call out about those, I guess, customers in general from just maybe a margin standpoint, return standpoint of those particular contracts? Thank you. Yeah, I think that's a great call out. The new contracts that we're winning are margin accretive to us, and so our teams are doing a very good job around pricing discipline. We want to make sure that in terms of achieving our margin aspirations, and I've said very clearly in the past, we should be at or better than our peers in terms of our margin performance. Winning new business that is margin accretive is really important to that, and our pricing disciplines have been very strong throughout the year to deliver that. In terms of margin performance, I would comment as it relates to growth. We're ahead of where I thought we would be in terms of the acceleration of the commercial agenda. We are spending some external money to support the startup of new operations because we're ahead of plan. We are working to position internal operational resources to fuel our organic growth agenda, but the positioning of that resources has lagged what has been overperformance in the new contract signings.
We've had some short-term expense associated with startup costs. We don't see that repeating in our growth agendas. We right-sized the operational organization to deliver against growth, but that did have an impact. on the margins of the new business that we're signing. Stephanie, I just wanted to highlight a little bit on the data centers and aerospace and defense in particular. Those are very complex mandates, very complicated supply chains, and the services that we're doing for our customers are a bit different than probably what you'd see in kind of the core business that we're doing. It tends to be stickier. It tends to be higher value. So we're excited about that. And I would also say that we're very excited on our Investor Day to give you a deep dive look, in particular, into aerospace and defense and what we actually do inside the data center. So stay tuned.
Thank you all. Appreciate it. Thanks, Jeff.
- Operator
Thank you. Our next question is coming from Chris Weatherby from Wells Fargo. Your line is now live.
Question · Wells Fargo
Chris WeatherbyAnalyst, Wells FargoYeah. Hey, thanks. Good morning, guys. Maybe kind of picking up on the margin point, I guess maybe if there's any incremental detail you want to give about the startup costs, and then I guess if we think about some of the growth opportunities coming from these complex mandates like data centers and aerospace and defense, I guess how do we kind of think about the progression of those startup costs? What drops away, I guess, as we go into the fourth quarter? Obviously, the guy does call for some margin expansion. I think on a year-over-year basis. So can you maybe talk a little bit about sort of the margin progression and then, you know, maybe bigger picture how we see that sort of expanding as we move forward from here?
- ManagementManagement
Yeah, Chris, it's Mark. Maybe we just pivot to, you know, expectations of margins starting to see some green shoots in the fourth quarter. But really, we're looking for another sequential improvement. and margins in the fourth quarter, specifically from the GXO way. Global procurement, establishing that organization in the middle of the year, will start to drive some procurement savings. We continue to be focused on continuous improvement initiatives via the GXO way. And we're also seeing a more favorable balance between net wins and exits in the fourth quarter. So a little less churn in the fourth quarter. than what we saw in the third quarter and the second quarter, as we told you historically. In addition to that, the Wincanton synergies are behind us and we'll really see the full benefit from those Wincanton savings. So really that's how I would walk the third quarter to the fourth quarter. And as Patrick said, we did have some additional costs associated with some new large scale customer startups. But overall, I think that's how I would position the margin improvement from Q3 to Q4. And then just generally speaking, as we move into 2027, broadly speaking, we're really focused on productivity and efficiencies. And a lot of that is going to come from not only the commercial side by growing the B2B higher margin, but as we go into 2027, the rollout of our labor management systems, the further deployment of GXO IQ. And so all of that will start to quicken as we move into 2027. But we're right where we thought. We hit our guide here in the third quarter, and I think I've provided you some color here on how we see fourth quarter shaping up versus the third quarter.
Okay, that's very helpful. I appreciate that. And then maybe Patrick, can you comment a little bit on the competitive landscape? So I know there's been some discussion over the course of the last several months about new entrants and other concerns like that. Obviously, sort of the pipeline looks like it's growing. You know, the success and the key verticals that you're focusing on looks pretty good. So maybe provide us with a little bit of perspective. And if you can sort of weave in a little bit of maybe what your expectations are for the operation. opportunity on organic growth in 27, that'd be helpful. Yeah, sure. I think maybe back to the May timeframe, a lot was made of statements that Amazon made about coming into the space. And I think that is maybe what you're referring to as new entrants. We have continued to not see any impact of Amazon statement in contract logistics. I think they're absolutely having an impact in Last Mile and Ocean and Air. Great. In fact, we think they're a great provider in those two areas and their services. In contract logistics, as I said back in May and on the last call, they're simply not a competitor in our space. Our value proposition is very different in terms of what we bring to our customers versus what they're offering to the marketplace. And I continue to reiterate, we haven't lost any business to Amazon in contract. We don't see them in bids, competitive bids that we're in. And so that really has not been a factor. The marketplace is competitive. There are a number of players in the industry, but we have a $3 billion pipeline. In many cases, we are competing against six, seven, eight providers for opportunities, but we're winning better than 30% of those. And so we're winning more than our fair share when we are competing.
We're winning more than our fair share when we're winning more than our fair share. I think speaks very strongly to the value proposition that we have, and especially underpinned by our agenda of robotics, automation, technology, AI, seem to be humanoids. And so we really feel good about our competitive position in the market. When we look to our TAM and opportunities to grow that pipeline, certainly putting emphasis on North America, which has been a big driver of our organic growth this year. as well as the B2B verticals really will provide us the opportunity to continue business there, but in terms of the pipeline that aren't represented in our pipeline yet. And then I would point to Asia, where we have a relatively small business, but we're really starting to put strategic emphasis there, which we will accelerate in 2027. We are winning new business in Asia, including data centers, by the way. And so great progress there to grow the pipeline in 2027. And so all those factors give us a lot of confidence that, number one, we're positioned really well competitively in contract logistics as one of the market leaders. We have great industry verticals to target for continued growth and geographic expansion opportunities, both with the emphasis in North American Asia, to continue to build out our TAM, which should fuel organic growth going forward. Helpful caller. Thanks for the time. Appreciate it. Thank you. Thank you. Our next question is coming from Aria Rosa from Citigroup. Your line is now live. Hey, good morning.
Question · Citigroup
Aria RosaAnalyst, CitigroupSo congratulations on some strong results here and the positive momentum. I'm curious to hear, just to get your thoughts on kind of where macro conditions currently stand. And then as we think about both the pipeline and the sustainability of some of these results, how vulnerable are they to macro conditions? And if we see a change in macro conditions, kind of what's your level of confidence on being able to continue with some of the momentum that we're seeing here? They're clearly gaining traction. Thanks. Yeah, sure. I think it's a great question. I've talked in the past about contract logistics as an industry and the sensitivity of the industry to macro conditions being geopolitical, economic. We are less connected to GDP performance. We're less connected to geopolitical challenges with the exception of maybe an environment of those challenges creates tailwinds for the industry when customers need to make changes to their supply chain. So as trade flows change, warehouse locations need to change, inventory holding strategies change, and those changes result in opportunities for companies to look at outsourcing, supply chain activity as an alternative to operating themselves, and that fuels opportunities. For the contract logistics industry and us, especially as technology, robotics, automation, AI, not humanoids become more prevalent in the execution of supply chains. Supply chain execution is becoming more complex, and the expertise that we bring and the solutions that we have to address supply chain complexity are driving customers to make a decision to outsource.
- ManagementManagement
And we've talked about, from an industry perspective, only about 30% of supply chain spend is outsourced, and so there's a lot of white space. 70% of spend is white space for us to go after to grow, accelerate.
Huge value proposition associated with hiring experts like GXO to deliver against those solutions. So, from a macro, we are not really sensitive to some of the big macro economic drivers that are happening, and in fact, those are serving as tailwinds for us.
That's really helpful. I appreciate the caller. And then, just as a follow-up, I was hoping you could give us a bit more context on GXO IQ. Just how should we think about what the upside potential is from that, and is there a good way to think about the cost associated with developing and deploying GXO IQ and what the return profile looks like from that investment? Thanks.
Yeah, sure. So, for those that don't know, GXO IQ is our middleware solution. That is our data lake and the platform for deployment of AI and productivity improvement tools to our operations. And we're working to integrate GXO IQ with all of our operations. Over 50 will be integrated this year. We, in terms of AI, have a team who are developing our own proprietary AI, but we also leverage external partners and the things that they have developed, which would... which keeps our development costs very low. The benefit of AI in our operations is just one component of many elements of the GXO way that we're pursuing. When we look at the deployment of our labor management systems, unified labor management system approach around the world, we think that's 5% to 15% improvement in labor costs and in individual operations, and we'll be on... that journey over a multi-year period to get that. When we look at AI, we think on top of that ourselves and for our customers as we share in the cost savings generated by that. I see AI is going to continue to feature in a very big way in our business. We're seeing great results from the tools that we've deployed already in the mid-single digits benefit that I've talked about. And so we'll continue to accelerate that. That will contribute even a margin improvement. It will also continue to strengthen our value proposition to customers as we share cost savings with them.
Very helpful. Thank you, Patrick.
- Operator
Thank you. Our next question is coming from Richard Harnin from Deutsche Bank. Your line is now live.
Question · Deutsche Bank
Richard HarninAnalyst, Deutsche BankHey. Good morning, everyone. Thank you. See, I just wanted to follow up a little bit more about the startup costs. You know, is this just something that will be reoccurring to some extent as you, you know, bring on new customers and new strategic verticals? If so, like when do they typically start to taper off? Is it a one quarter adjustment or something and then you start to get compensated for those costs? Or, you know, is this something unique to this past quarter about the startup? And then, you know, I think there was something said about when Canton related costs in the quarter two that led to some outside weakness. That seems to be in the rear view now. But just wanted to understand, I guess, big picture, like what's artificially depressing the Q3 margin in relation to its potential? You know, we're hearing lots of good things. on this call with respect to how organic growth accelerated. You have the DXO IQ starting to build up. The, you know, unified labor management savings starting to trickle in. So I just want to understand, again, like what the potential is for margin uplift if we didn't have maybe some of these unique costs weighing on results.
- ManagementManagement
It's a fantastic question to call out. And so I would say first, the sort of cost. They're really unique to the period and the projects that we were working on and the timing of those coming on. I was reflecting back to, I don't know if it was the last call or the call before I was asked, what keeps me up at night or what would be the biggest headwind to our organic growth agenda? And I talked about the importance of matching our operational capability, particularly on implementation, with... With our organic growth agenda and particularly an accelerating growth agenda. With organic growth accelerating at the pace it has, we really found ourselves in Q3 stretched in terms of implementation resource. So we were quick to go outside for outside consultative help on implementation activities. That's a one-time thing to support those activities while concurrently we've been putting operational resource... in place to support the growth agenda going forward. That's really about right-sizing our implementation teams, our operations teams to meet the expectations that are created on the new business signings side. And so I feel really...first of all, we are customer service first. So we have zero hesitancy in engaging outside resource to make sure we successfully implement for customers. Even if it comes at a short-term cost. We are long-term focused and we're going to deliver a long-term strong organic growth agenda. We want to make sure we perform strong out of the gate when we win business. And we'll do that even when it comes at a cost. As we look forward, what's really important is that we have consistency in the delivery of our organic growth agenda. So we have to have the sales materialized when we are positioning...
...resource for implementation and keeping that in balance. And I feel very good about coming out of Q3 into Q4 where we are on that agenda. And I feel especially good about how we're moving into 2027, right-sizing the organization to be focused on delivering organic growth. And remember, this is an inflection point for GXO. We're really coming out of a five-year agenda of strong M&A. I've talked about... the priority being organic growth. Q3, in terms of some of those external startup costs associated with implementations, is a bit of those growing pains and making that inflection. I'll put the teams on top of it, and we're going to deliver really well against that. All right. Thanks, Patrick. I appreciate it. And if I could just squeeze in one more clarification around conversations for...or expectations, rather, for PEAK. What are your... conversations with customers right now? I think it was alluded to, you know, that we have a good season here, but curious, you know, what kind of puts and takes you're considering for PEAK and how you're preparing for that? Yeah, so I think, as Mark said, we saw across the board about a 1% lift in volume. I would characterize our posture right now as cautiously optimistic. We are positioning labor for EC. Someone has confidence in that, but in terms of being prudent.
By week, over the next seven weeks here, how that plays out. Thank you, Catherine.
- Operator
Thank you. Our next question is coming from Brian Ossenbeck from J.P. Morgan. Your line is now live.
Question · J.P
Brian OssenbeckAnalyst, J.PHey, good morning. Thanks for taking the question. Maybe start with a quick follow-up on the peak season. We're seeing some fairly significant congestion in the West Coast ports. I don't think yet. Direct operations in those areas, but clearly leading indicator and tied into the rest of the supply chain. So I don't know if that's coming up in your customer conversations or in some of your planning, because we're starting to see some fairly significant delays coming out of the ports. So is that feeding into the on-peak season, or is that separate?
- ManagementManagement
Yeah, we are not being impacted by that today. At least I'm not. Hearing that from customers, I think the positioning of peak inventory really happened in the August-September time frame in order to meet the four of the customers that we're servicing. So as you say, we don't have any port operations, certainly our warehouses, but the inventory has already been positioned.
Understood. Thanks, Patrick. Just a quick follow-up. The exposure to data centers and that whole supply chain, can you give a little bit more context on that, maybe in terms of how much of the incremental new wins are coming from these customers? And you can give also a little bit of flavor in terms of how much of the current book of business is related to those sorts of contracts. And it does seem like it's still moving forward at a pretty good clip for you guys, especially in new geographies, it sounds like, as well.
Yeah. Brian, this is Christine. I think we saw really good growth both in new business wins and then even in existing business around not only data centers, but as Patrick mentioned, the strategic growth verticals. I think you can see in our revenue breakout around technology, it was our fastest growing vertical. I think we're... I encourage that the growth is only picking up. I think you can see our strategic growth vertical wins, whether you're looking year to date or in the quarter, are up three times over where they were last year. And certainly within the pipeline, they're about a third of our pipeline, but the RFPs are coming quick. We're winning business very quick in this space. So the TAM not only growing in North America, but as Patrick mentioned, we're winning in this space in continental Europe and we're now winning in Asia. So the TAM just continues to expand for us and a lot more to come as we move into 2027.
Okay. Thank you for the time.
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Question · Morgan Stanley
Ravi ShankerAnalyst, Morgan StanleyGreat. Thanks, everyone. Patrick, I want to ask you a big picture question on your current churn levels. Is it where you want it to be? You can have how much room. For improvement do you see? How much of it is within your control? And anything in particular that you guys can do to maybe kind of reduce that? Not saying it's elevated. I'm just saying there's any signs of improvement there or any kind of leverage you can do to get that better over time. Yes. So I'm really happy with the trajectory on churn. Mark referenced that in his comments as it relates to our EBITDA margin trajectory. Going forward, so we're seeing lots of improvement on customer retention. We continue to signal and plan around 95% retention, but we do see one or two point opportunity there in terms of improving retention going into 2027. I would say that the launch of our global customer success model is already yielding resource. Attention to our top customers and especially those who are doing business with us across multiple geographies. We are being more deliberate around collecting customer feedback through our MPS approach and putting mechanisms in place to action that feedback so that we make sure that customers are getting the very best experience that they can have today, not even waiting for the renewals. And we've had some really great renewals this year where we're extending customer relationships even beyond 10 years in many cases, so not only retaining but creating increased contract length through that renewal process, and a lot of that is underpinned by investment in robotics, automation, and technology in our customers' business, and our customers really looking for longevity.
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So, our retention is going to continue to contribute to organic growth as we step into 2027. We'll share more details about that on our Investor Day, November 16th. Great. Looking forward to that. And maybe it's a quick follow-up on the macro. What are you hearing from your shipper customers? Do they feel like they're in a good spot here with their demand levels? Or does it feel like they're a coil spring kind of waiting to pounce as soon as the macro gets better, which could drive kind of meaningful upside to like the base activity level for 27th? I think it's hard for me to comment on that in the aggregate. I would say feedback I get from customers varies a little bit when you talk about North America, UK, Europe, and so forth. But generally, as I would say, cautiously optimistic. I think people have been waiting for the coiled spring for a while. Hopefully that coiled spring comes soon, and especially as we move into 2027. But generally, from the things that we see in the macro, economies continue to perform. Fairly steady. And we're not seeing the 5% to 10% in the aggregate volume increase in the near term, but we're seeing lots of good support for year-on-year volume stability and maybe 1% or 2% improvement on volume year-on-year. Very good. Thanks, Patrick. See you in two weeks.
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Thank you. Our next question today is coming from GXO.
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GXOAnalystJason Seidel from TD Cowan. Your line is now live.
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Hey, thank you, operator. Morning, Patrick. Morning, team. I wanted to talk a little bit about your new contract wins and some of your strategic vertical focus. You know, when I look to the percentage of your new wins coming from just strictly outsourcing, it really jumped as a percentage of overall business, right? It's 26%. I think last quarter was 17. Is this just a function of the new verticals tend to be more new outsourcers? Yes, absolutely. I think that is the case, especially in aerospace and defense and technology, where we're seeing a lot of new outsourcer activity. As I said, I think that comes with supply chain complexity. When you look at the aerospace industry and the complexity of that supply chain to begin with, and suppliers' efforts to keep pace with the backlog that exists there, the application of solutions that we have in those industries, I think, is resonating really well, delivering real results. I think we'll continue to see that level of new outsourcing. Yeah, we're definitely encouraged to see that growth, especially when you look at the margin profile. My follow-up is going to be more on the volume outlook. I just want to make sure I'm getting this right. You guys are basically just choosing to continue to go. Guide to flat volumes as you've been doing all year long. But you do have, I think, easier comms coming up in the fourth quarter. And plus, what you've seen thus far, let's call it a third of the way in here, is favorable. Is that a good way to characterize the outlook?
Yeah, I think that's really fair. So I think we have been consistent and prudent in assuming flat volume. And when we've been wrong, we've been wrong by one or two percent. And so we like the prudency of assuming flat and realizing that one or two percent improvement. Obviously, it differs by the industry verticals that we participate in. But in the aggregate, that feels like a prudent path forward. But as you say, I think with opportunity for us. I appreciate the time. Nice job in the quarter.
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Question · Oppenheimer
Scott SchenbergerAnalyst, OppenheimerThanks very much and good morning. For my first one, in the press release, it was indicated that you're converting opportunities more quickly. I'm curious, is that a result of the end markets you're pursuing where the sales cycle is just? faster? Or is it something you're doing internally with the sales force that's maybe boosting that? Thanks.
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Yeah, I think it's a combination of the industry verticals that we're focused on. And I think it is good commercial discipline in terms of moving from customer conversation to close to implementation. Christine, maybe you want to comment on... the pace of implementation of the business that we're winning in comparison to the past. Yeah, so... Hi, Scott. It's Christine. So we are seeing the conversion. I think you saw this manifest in the second quarter. We had 410 million in wins in the second quarter. And with that, in a matter of three weeks, we rebuilt the pipeline very, very quickly with the amount of RFPs. Not only are we winning faster, but we are implementing faster. So we're kind of winning more in the year. I think we're up about 10 percentage points on a year-over-year basis of business that we're winning in the year for the year versus last year, and I think it's primarily driven by data centers and that we're able to move very, very quickly in an industry that is obviously scaling very quickly, and that is a differentiator for us in the marketplace. Great. Thank you both. Go ahead, Ben.
Patrick? I was just going to say, yeah, no, I think that that threads perfectly to what I talked about in terms of implementation costs in the third quarter, needing to leverage some external resources for that, because we are winning and implementing faster and much faster than we have in the past, and so we're right-sized there now to meet the needs of those faster implementations, but that was definitely a reality associated with increased sales. Sounds good. Thanks. On the follow-up, I guess probably Mark, for you, it's essentially a CapEx-free cash flow question. With the pursuit of the new verticals and expanding into more so in North America, and it sounds like a bit into Asia, a bit more now. Are you seeing more open book or closed book contracts? What does that mean? And it sounds like a push towards B2B more with those verticals. What's it going to do for the CapEx profile going forward? Is it going to increase, decrease? It sounds like it's going to be good for margins, but just curious on the CapEx end and obviously free cash flow from there. Thanks.
Yes. Thanks, Scott. You know, as you said, I mean, we're focused on the B2B and growing quicker in North America. You know, just generally speaking, North America tends to be, you know, fixed variable close book type contracts. And as you indicated, those are typically higher margin. So that's good as we think about the future from a margin profile standpoint. When we think about CapEx just holistically, you know, as we're growing more in North America, you know, and I've looked at the data, I would say CapEx is just slightly, as a percent of revenue, is slightly higher on closed book contracts than open book contracts. I've done some analysis on that. So I don't think the higher growth in North America specifically relates to fixed price contracts is going to generate additional CapEx. I think we... We think holistically about our entire book of business. We do know that the B2B verticals in some instances could create some CapEx needs. But I think we continue to believe over the course of the next couple of years that our CapEx is a percent of revenue based on our growth projections will continue to be somewhere between 2% and 3%. We don't think that there's any substantial need... to increase CapEx. There are some instances from an automation robotic standpoint that those services can be bought as a service as opposed to CapEx. So we don't expect that to be significantly higher, probably a tick higher as it relates to B2B in North America, but I don't think anything materially different than what we've seen in the past.
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Question · Steepo
Bruce ChenAnalyst, SteepoHey, good morning, everyone. This is Andrew Cox on for Bruce. I just wanted to talk a little bit about the incremental wins for 2027 that have been secured. I think the presentation called out $630 million, which is down about 10%, nearly 10% from the comparable year ahead revenue at this point last year. And that's, you know, of course, even as you guys have had strong quarterly wins and pipeline exceeding $3 billion, you called out some expectations for strong 4Q signing expectations. I was just kind of wondering, you know, where that's coming from. That hasn't really been the case in recent years. We'd love to know if there's anything incremental to call out about the 4Q signings, and then also, you know, just kind of reconciling the lower year ahead revenue at this point with your confidence of accelerating growth into next year. Thank you. Yes, I think it's a great question for us to wrap up on. So, our year-to-date signings that carry into 2027 comp against the number that included NHS, which was a very large contract signed in the prior year. As I said, we will exit the year at $850 million or higher, and that will be a record for us as we look at...
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We can say that for the confidence that we have in delivering the...
I think just to add a little bit of color, I think with the confidence that... that we have with where the pipeline was at, 3.1 billion. I think we added 267 million in the quarter for 2027. I think if you kind of back into it, I think we're looking for over 300 million in wins in the fourth quarter. And obviously, a large chunk of that will set up into 2027, driving that over 850 million. And then just to remind you, we will still win business in the first quarter, the second quarter, the first half of the year, in the year for the year. And as we mentioned, we're... winning business faster with the strategic growth verticals, the pipeline growing, the commercial momentum. So I think we feel very good about the layering and the building of momentum as we move into 2027 to drive accelerated organic growth.
Thank you. We reached the end of our question and answer session. I'd like to turn the floor back over to Patrick for any further closing comments.
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Yes, thank you very much. We're really pleased with the momentum we're seeing across GXO. Over the past year, we've sharpened our operating model, strengthened leadership in our capabilities, and created greater alignment across the business. Today, we're beginning to see those efforts reflected in our growth, commercial momentum, and operational performance. From a record pipeline levels and strong new business wins to the rollout of a unified labor management system and accelerated deployment of GXO IQ, we're seeing increased evidence that our strategy is gaining traction. Most importantly, we're building a more connected and more effective organization that is better positioned to deliver for our customers and shareholders over the long term. We're really confident in the direction of the business, and we're excited about the opportunities that lie ahead. We're looking forward to discussing our strategy, sharing more detail on how we're positioned in GXO for sustainable growth at Investor Day on November 16th. And with that, thank you for joining. Thank you. That does conclude today's teleconference. Let me just connect your line at this time and have a wonderful day. We thank you for your participation today.