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FC earnings call transcript, November 4, 2026
Q4 2026 Franklin Covey Earnings Conference Call
Key takeaways from this call : results vs expectations, guidance, what analysts asked
- Management 51%
- Boyd Roberts 28%
- Paul Walker 0%
- Jesse 0%
- Analysts 4%
Management
Boyd Roberts
Head of Investor Relations
18 min
Paul Walker
Chief Executive Officer
<1 min
Jesse
Management
<1 min
Analysts · 2
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Alex Paris
Barrington Research
1 min
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Dave Storms
Stonegate
2 min
Transcribed automatically by Lician from the company's public webcast; it can contain errors and speaker names are best effort.
- Prepared remarks2:10
Good day and thank you for standing by. Welcome to the Franklin Covey Third Quarter 2026 earnings conference call. At this time, all participants are listen-only mode. After the speaker's presentation, there will be a question and answer session. To ask a question during the session, you will need to press star 11 on your telephone. You will then hear an automated message advising your hand is raised. To withdraw your question, please press star 11 again. Please advise us. Today's conference is being recorded. I would like to hand the conference over to your first speaker today, Boyd Roberts, Head of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.
- Boyd RobertsHead of Investor Relations
Thank you.
Good afternoon, everyone. And thank you for joining us today on Franklin Covey's fourth quarter and fiscal year 2026 earnings call. We appreciate having the opportunity to connect with you. Before we begin, please remember that today's remarks contain forward-looking statements as defined by the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995, including without limitation, statements regarding our fiscal 2027 guidance and other statements that may predict, forecast, indicate, or imply future results, performance, or achievements, and may contain words such as believe, anticipate, experience, estimate, projects, or words, or phrases of similar meaning. These statements reflect management's current judgment and analysis and are subject to a variety of risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from current expectations, including but not limited to risks related to macroeconomic and geopolitical conditions, the timing of climate and government funding decisions, the transition of our China operations, the success of our go-to-market and product investments, and other risk factors described in our most recent Form 10-K and other filings made with the SEC. We undertake no obligation to update or revise any forward-looking statements except as required by law. With that, I'd like to turn it over to Mr. Paul Walker, our Chief Executive Officer. Thank you, Boyd. Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you for joining us today. If I were to summarize Fiscal 26 in one sentence, it would be this. The transformation investments we made have gained traction and are producing results, positioning us for growth in Fiscal 27. For the full year of Fiscal 26, revenue was $261.5 million.
Within the guidance we revised on our third quarter call, an adjusted EBITDA was $28.9 million within our original guidance range. In the fourth quarter, adjusted EBITDA grew 9% to $12.8 million. Those results matter. But the more important story for Fiscal 27 is what's happening beneath them. In Enterprise North America, our largest business and the main focus of our investment Fiscal 26 invoiced amounts grew 4% to $151.4 million, and deferred revenue grew 17% to $59.2 million. That growth is already on our books, establishing a strong foundation for the revenue and adjusted EBITDA growth we expect in Fiscal 27. I'd like to focus on three themes today, which you can see reflected on Slide 3. The first theme is related to our business in Enterprise North America. Enterprise North America has a resilient core. Our go-to-market transformation there is working, and we're accelerating our investment to further build on the invoice growth we achieved last year. The second theme I'll focus on is that our education business is a proven platform which has achieved significant growth over time, and we expect it to reach turn to meaningful growth. And third, in the age of AI, the human edge matters more than ever, and that makes our business even more durable. So diving into these themes, first, the first theme, Enterprise North America and its resilient core and the success of our go-to-market transformation. Enterprise North America accounts for approximately 80% of our enterprise division revenue and more than half of the total
company revenue. It's the engine reorganized and invested in to accelerate growth, and we expect it to drive the majority of our revenue growth in fiscal 27. As shown on slide four, the core of this business has been resilient, growing 30% since fiscal 21, or 5% compounded. Over the last few years, it's absorbed a pullback in federal government spending, the impact of our own go-to-market transformation, and a cooling in demand for unconscious bias training after the surge that followed 2020. Excluding our federal government and unconscious bias business, our core enterprise North America business grew approximately 8% in fiscal 26. In addition, clients are committing for longer. 60% of our contracted amounts in North America are now under multi-year agreements. As we've discussed throughout the year, much of our invoice growth is right now. Recognized over time. We collect the cash as we invoice, but the full benefit shows up in reported revenue over the following quarters. That's why the 4% invoice growth and 17% growth in deferred revenue in Enterprise North America that we built in fiscal 26 sets a strong foundation for fiscal 27. We expect growth in both revenue and adjusted EBITDA this year, with adjusted EBITDA growing faster than revenue as we benefit from the operating leverage in our model. To build on that resilient core and accelerate growth in Enterprise North America, we invested in transforming our go-to-market model. Today, we have dedicated hunters focused on winning new clients, and a dedicated farming team focused on retaining and expanding existing relationships, supported by a central sales hub. These bets are working, which you can see reflected on slide five. First, on the...
On the hunting side, compared with fiscal 24, the year before we launched the new model, invoiced amounts per hunter have more than doubled. Each hunter is winning more than 30% new clients, and invoiced amounts per new client are more than 50% higher than they were in the old model. This is driving our growth in invoiced amounts that will flow through the reported revenue growth. Second, on the farming side, the invoiced amounts per farmer... are also increasing. This has driven a significant increase in our invoiced amounts per retained client, which grew in the high single digits this last year, as existing clients expanded their work with us. This was partially offset by our client logo retention rate being a couple of points lower than we'd like. This is something that we're putting extra focus on this year. These larger new client deals and growing client relationships reflect the strategic importance clients are placing... ...on the outcomes we're helping them achieve. Clients are bringing us in to help them with bigger challenges and engaging both our experts and our solutions and content. I'll share just two brief stories from the fourth quarter that show what's behind these numbers. One from our hunters and another from our farmers. First, on the hunting side. This is a story that's exactly the kind of win our dedicated hunting team was built to deliver. A new client engaged at a strategic level, starting with a larger initial commitment.
This is a story of a global consumer packaged goods company who partnered with us to accelerate the adoption and execution of its strategy across its commercial operation as it expands its retail footprint. What began as a conversation about aligning field execution with growth objectives quickly became a multi-solution, multi-year enterprise partnership. totaling $300,000, well above the size of a typical first engagement for us. And the relationship is already growing. Following early momentum and rapid adoption, the client expanded the engagement within weeks of launch, adding a new phase focused on developing senior and mid-level leaders through our leadership solutions and executive coaching services. That positions their leaders to execute against aggressive expansion targets, and it shows how the we're going to be able to do that. The relationship our hunters win today becomes the expansion opportunities our farmers grow tomorrow. The second example is on the farming side. As a reminder, our farmers' job is to retain clients and expand our impact within them, and this story is a great example of that. One of the world's largest energy companies has grown a regional engagement with us into a global execution partnership that now spans 10 countries. The work began with operating teams in the Americas, where Franklin Covey helped leaders deliver against aggressive cost and growth targets.
When the executive who sponsored that work was promoted into a global leadership role, he brought Franklin Covey with him, recommending our four disciplines of execution, consulting, and coaching to the company's senior leadership as a system for delivering on a major company priority. The client's success across that industry is a great example of that. Initial deployment is now leading to additional work. Pilots across nine business units with the potential to reach tens of thousands of people at more than 200 sites worldwide. This is what drives the high single-digit growth in invoice amounts per retained client that I mentioned. Clients who see results with our content, our experts, and our technology bring us into more of their organization. Our key bets are working. And in fiscal 27, we'll enter phase two of our transformation to build upon the traction we've gained. As we continue to invest in these areas, we're also restructuring other areas of the company to ensure that every dollar we spend is focused on the most important growth areas. In fiscal 27, we're focused in the following areas as we build on the traction we've gained. First, hunters. We're growing our hunting team by more than 20% this year and plan to keep adding each year. We're backing them with roughly 30% more sales development representatives and a 25% increase in marketing to scale the lead generation that worked in fiscal 26.
Relative to our farmers, our farming team is already sized to support the growth our hunters are delivering, so we don't need to add investments here. Instead, our farmers will be squarely focused on what they do best, retaining and expanding our client relationship. Building on the meaningful improvement in revenue retention we achieved in fiscal 26, we expect our existing clients to become an even stronger engine of growth at very attractive incremental margins. The third area is our central sales hub. The hub we built as part of this transformation is operating as designed and requires almost no incremental investment. It will support both teams as they scale. And the fourth area is our solutions. We've meaningfully increased our investment in solution development over the past few years, and we plan to increase it again in fiscal 27, funded within our operating budget, and now being led by our company-wide chief product officer, Sean Covey. Prior to successfully building and running our education business, Sean led all of product development for the company, and we believe this transition will enable us to further bring clients the best content. technology, and AI services to address their mission-critical needs. Because the central hub is already in place and little incremental investment is needed on the farming side, more of each new dollar of revenue in fiscal 27 and beyond will flow through to profit. That's a key reason that we expect adjusted EBITDA to grow faster than revenue in fiscal 27. We're also extending these same go-to-market disciplines.
to our business in the enterprise division in Europe, Japan, and Australia where we see a similar opportunity to accelerate growth. The second thing I'd like to talk about briefly is related to our education business. Education is a proven platform which has achieved significant growth over time and we expect it to return to meaningful invoice growth. Our education division grew reported revenue 2% in fiscal 26 to 76.2%. Driven by subscription growth and more coaching and consulting days delivered. School retention improved to its highest level since 2022 and Leader and Me now serves more than 8,000 schools worldwide. Over the last several years, we've won a number of larger district and statewide commitments in addition to individual schools. That's been very good for the business overall. However, it can shift timing from one year to the next because district and state funding decisions don't follow our fiscal calendar. Slide six shows how the division has grown over time and separates the core individual school and district sales from very large districts and state contracts. This year, a few of those large deals, including the statewide commitment I mentioned on our third quarter call, did not land in fiscal 26. And that's the primary reason education invoice amounts declined. However, these opportunities remain in our pipeline and we expect them to contribute in fiscal 27. We see no change in underlying demand or in the results schools achieve with LEADER and ME.
Our focus here is on sharpening sales execution, reaching new schools and districts, increasing renewals, and adapting the disciplines working in Enterprise North America to educators' buying cycles. To lead this work and build on the tremendous... Education Division Foundation, Sean Coveybilt, we welcome John Buchanan as Executive Vice President of Education. John joins us from GoGuardian, a leading education technology company, where he led sales and marketing teams that reached more than 50% of U.S. K-12 schools. I'm really pleased with John's early progress. With John's leadership and the market demand for outcomes LEADER and ME produces, a strong subscription base and a solid... ...pipeline of opportunities, we expect education to return to invoice growth in fiscal 27. The third thing, in the age of AI, the human edge matters more than ever, and that makes our business even more durable. You can see this reflected on slide 7. We believe the opportunity ahead of us is both large and very durable. AI is making... Making information, analysis, and tools more accessible than ever. But it doesn't solve one of the hardest problems in business. Turning strategy into collective action across an organization. Every organization has pockets of great performance and significant variability everywhere else. One of the biggest opportunities for breakthrough performance for an organization lies in moving the entire performance distribution curve rider and tighter toward the results of the best teams or...
already achieving. Technology can help identify those pockets of great performance and help to analyze what makes them work. However, it still requires people throughout an organization to change their collective behavior to turn that answer into a result. An organization can have the right strategy, the right technology, and even the right answer, and still fall short if its leaders can't align people, build trust, change... ...change habits, and execute consistently. As technology becomes more widely available, that ability becomes an even greater differentiator. That's what we mean by the human edge, and our entire focus is on helping organizations build it. We see the value clients place in our solutions and how they work with us. A majority are committing for multiple years. In Enterprise North America, 59% of our clients... of contracts, representing 60% of contract value, are now for multi-year periods. And these clients are not only entering into licenses to use our tools, assessments, and content, but a majority are also engaging our experts to help them ensure their objectives are met. Our value is in the combination of proven frameworks, trusted content, experienced consultants and coaches, and technology. And clients don't make those kind of multi-year commitments for something peripheral than make them when the outcome really does matter. We're also building AI into our own solutions, and it will be a powerful part of how we help clients achieve their outcomes. And we have substantial room to grow by expanding our work within the many clients we serve today and by capturing new clients within the large markets in which we're focused. I'll close by returning to the central point. Fiscal 26 was a year in which we
continued to build a stronger company and in which we saw clear evidence that our investments are producing the results we intended. We have a resilient core, a more productive growth engine, an education business position to grow, and rising demand for the human edge we help clients build. We're entering fiscal 27 building on the measurable progress we achieved on our key investment initiatives. The size, duration, and importance of client relationships are expanding. Our business model is strong, and we expect to see our progress translate into growth in reported revenue, adjusted EBITDA, and cash flow. I'm deeply grateful to our clients for their trust and to our associates around the world for their brilliance, hard work, and commitment. With that, I'd like to turn over to Jesse to walk through our fourth quarter full-year results and share our outlook for fiscal 27. Jesse, over to you.
- JesseManagement
Great.
- Management
Thanks, Paul, and good afternoon.
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Everyone. Fiscal 2026 was a year in which the investments we made in our people, solutions, and go-to-market models gained traction and produced measurable commercial progress that will shape our fiscal 2027 outlook. As shown in slide eight, revenue for the year finished within the revised guidance range we provided last quarter, and adjusted EBITDA was within both our original and narrowed guidance ranges. I would like to highlight three points at the outset. First, our key leading indicators strengthened. For the full year, consolidated subscription and contractually committed services invoiced amounts grew 9%, and consolidated deferred revenue increased 4%. Importantly, within enterprise, those subscription and committed services invoiced amounts grew 18%, and deferred revenue in North America grew 17%. Second, we improved our cost structure while continuing to invest in growth. Operating SG&A declined $7.7 million, helping us achieve a slight increase in full year adjusted EBITDA, even though reported revenue declined 2%. Third, this progress, coupled with improving revenue retention in both enterprise and education divisions, will provide the bridge to revenue adjusted EBITDA and cash flow improvement we expect in fiscal 2027. In my remarks today, I'll walk through our fiscal year and fourth quarter consolidated and division results, capital allocation priorities, and finish with our fiscal 27 outlook. Slide 9 summarizes our consolidated results for the year. Fiscal 26 reported revenue was $261.5 million, or two
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$263.4 million in constant currency. Within the revised guidance range, we provided on our third quarter earnings call. Reported revenue declined 2% year over year. Enterprise division revenue decreased 3%, partially offset by 2% growth in education. Corporate revenue declined $1.8 million following the loss of sublease income from other tenants, only exited our former headquarters campus in June 2025. For the fourth quarter, reported revenue was $70 million, compared with $71.2 million a year ago, representing a decline of 2% and within our guidance. Foreign exchange effects on fourth quarter revenue were immaterial. Now let me separate the reported revenue picture from the commercial activity feeding future period. Importantly consolidated subscription and contractually committed services invoiced amounts increased 9% to $165.1 million, led by an 18% increase in the enterprise division to $117.7 million. Our consolidated deferred revenue balance increased 4% to $116.1 million, with a 17% increase in Enterprise North America. These are important measures because under our subscription and services model, some revenue recognized in Fiscal 26 arose from invoicing in prior periods, while a significant part of what we invoiced this year will become reported revenue in Fiscal 27, as the applicable performance obligations are satisfied. Gross margin was 75% for Fiscal 26, compared with...
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76.2% last year, and 74.7% in the fourth quarter, compared with 75.5% a year ago. These changes primarily reflect a change in the mix of products sold, increased training and coaching delivery costs, and increased amortization of capitalized curriculum costs. We are pleased that our cross-discipline resulted in a 4% or $7.7 million full-year decline in operating... SG&A to $167.1 million, reflecting efficiency and restructuring actions taken throughout the year. Fourth quarter operating SG&A decreased 6% to $39.5 million. Those savings more than offset the decline in gross profit, allowing us to increase adjusted EBITDA modestly despite lower revenue. That cross-discipline positions us to deliver operating leverage... as revenue returns to growth. Full-year adjusted EBITDA was $28.9 million, or $28.6 million in constant currency, compared with $28.8 million last year. That result was within both our original and narrowed guidance ranges. Adjusted EBITDA margin increased to 11% from 10.8% in fiscal 2025. In the fourth quarter, adjusted EBITDA grew 9%, or $1.1 million, to $12.8 million, and margin expanded to 18.3% from 16.4%. Foreign exchange effects on fourth quarter adjusted EBITDA were immaterial. During the fourth quarter, we incurred $1.1 million of restructuring expense, principally severance and related costs under the long-term restructuring plan. Initiated in our second quarter, bringing full-year restructuring expense to $6.7 million. Fiscal 26 net income was $4.9 million, or $0.42 per diluted share, compared with $3.1 million, or $0.24 per diluted share, in fiscal 25. Fourth quarter net income was $7.1 million, or $0.62 per diluted share.
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compared with $4.4 million, or $0.34 per diluted share, a year ago. Turning now to cash generation, cash flow from operating activities was $21.6 million in fiscal 26, compared with $29 million last year. The decline reflected an approximately $8 million swing in working capital. The accounts receivable were essentially unchanged this year against a large receivable decrease in fiscal 25, as we collected prior year balances. Free cash flow was $9.2 million versus $12.1 million in fiscal 25. Reduced capital spending on our new headquarters partly offset the working capital impact. We expect increased free cash flow conversion in fiscal 27, as operating performance continues to improve. Looking now to the divisions, enterprise generated approximately 70% of fiscal 26 revenue, while education contributed approximately 29%. Enterprise division reported revenue was $182.7 million for fiscal 26, compared with $188.1 million a year ago. At the same time, total enterprise invoiced amounts grew 3% to $190.6 million. And subscription and contractually committed services invoiced amounts grew 18% to $117.7 million. The enterprise division's overall deferred revenue balance increased 14% to $64.9 million. Fourth quarter enterprise revenue was $45.5 million, essentially unchanged year over year. Full-year enterprise adjusted EBITDABRA's 20% at $33.4 million, and margin improved 100 basis points to 18.3%, supported by lower SG&A. Fourth quarter enterprise adjusted EBITDABRA was $8.9 million, compared with $9.1 million a year ago. As shown on slide 10, in North America, the contrast between this year's reported revenue and this year's commercial activity is most pronounced.
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Thank you very much.
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In fiscal 26, invoiced amounts increased 4% to $151.4 million, driven primarily by growth in contractually committed services as more clients committed upfront to the solutions that will help them achieve their important outcomes. In the fourth quarter, approximately $6.4 million in invoiced amounts was for contractually committed predefined services, bringing the full year total to approximately $22.1 million. While we continue to recognize the revenue upon delivery, because these services have been contractually committed upfront, any unused days are guaranteed and will be recognized at the end of the contract term, if not delivered during the term. Excluding federal government business, which was affected by doge-related actions in Fiscal 25, North America invoiced amounts grew approximately 6%. North America... Reported revenue was $142.6 million, or 78% of enterprise division revenue, 3% lower year-over-year. Fourth quarter revenue was $35.8 million, essentially flat with the prior year. The full-year decline primarily reflects lower subscription invoicing in Fiscal 25 that flowed through to this year's revenue, as well as services contracted and invoiced in Fiscal 26 that will not be delivered until Fiscal 27. That timing also explains why the growth in deferred revenue was so meaningful. North America's deferred revenue balance rose 17% to $59.2 million at year-end, adding to our visibility as we enter Fiscal 27. The underlying client metrics are encouraging, as well. Revenue retention increased and the average size of retained
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rate. All Access Pass client relationships increased meaningfully. Multi-year agreements continue to represent 60% of contracted amounts, and clients are expanding both the scope and the duration of their relationships with us. Behind those leading indicators and metrics is the more productive sales force. We are winning new client relationships at a higher average initial commitment than we were two years ago, and we are expanding the relationships we retain. That is the operating reason why we expect this year's invoiced and deferred revenue growth to convert into reported revenue and operating leverage in Fiscal 27. North America adjusted EBITDA was $25.5 million for Fiscal 26, compared with $27.4 million last year, and $6.6 million in the fourth quarter, compared with $7.6 million a year earlier. The decrease... reflected in lower reported revenue, partially offset by approximately $5 million in lower SG&A. As shown in Slide 11, enterprise international revenue, including both international licensees and direct offices, was $40.1 million for Fiscal 26, compared with $40.5 million last year. Fourth quarter revenue was $9.7 million versus $9.8 million a year ago. China's operations continued to be adversely impacted by trade tensions and macroeconomic conditions. Excluding China, international segment revenue grew approximately 2% for the year, supported by strong growth in Europe and Australia.
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International adjusted EBITDA for Fiscal 26 increased to $7.9 million from $5.1 million in Fiscal 25, aided by approximately $3.3 million. in SG&A savings. Fourth quarter adjusted EBITDA increased to $2.3 million from $1.5 million. That improvement reflects the expense discipline that we've applied across the business. On Monday, we issued a press release announcing that we have signed an agreement to transition our China business operations from a direct office to a locally owned licensee arrangement. And currently, we expect to close that transaction by the end of the second quarter of fiscal 27. We believe local ownership will provide greater flexibility to serve the Chinese market and allow us to direct more of our own investment towards markets with stronger growth prospects. Following the transition, our China revenue will be recognized as licensee royalties rather than as direct office revenue. We therefore expect reported fiscal 27 revenue to be approximately $2 million or lower in the next quarter. than it otherwise would have been without a material effect on adjusted EBITDA. We expect the transition to improve the growth profile of our international segment. Turning to the education division now, as shown in slide 12, fiscal 26 education revenue increased 2% to $76.2 million, supported by 10% growth in subscription revenue to $50.6 million, and the delivery of approximately 900 more coaching and consulting days than in the prior year. Those gains were partially offset by lower material sales, primarily tied to reductions in budgets for the statewide initiative Paul had mentioned. Fourth quarter revenue was $23.6 million versus $24.4 million last year, primarily reflecting those lower material sales. Education invoiced amounts declined 10%
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to $72.8 million for the year, and 5% to $42.6 million in the fourth quarter. Three factors contributed to this decline. The statewide budget delays that impacted the timing of our contracting, large multi-year prepayments last year that did not recur at the same level, and an approximately $3 million district renewal that shifted from our fourth quarter into fiscal 27. Education invoiced amounts to $2 million in the fourth quarter. Education's deferred revenue balance was $51.2 million at year-end, 6% lower than last year, reflecting both the lower invoicing and the delivery of coaching days during the year, which drew down deferred balance. Full-year education adjusted EBITDA was $8 million, compared with $8.2 million last year. In the fourth quarter, its adjusted EBITDA grew 11% to $6.9 million from 6.9 million. With margin expanding to 29.1% from 25.3%, reflecting stronger membership growth margins and lower SG&A. Our installed base of schools remains an important strategic asset. School retention improved to its highest level since 2022, and Leader & Me now serves more than 4,500 schools in North America and 8,000 schools worldwide. We believe stronger execution on school retention and on new school and district relationships will reignite more consistent growth. Let me now move to our balance sheet and capital allocation. Our approach remains balanced across three priorities. First, preserving financial flexibility. Second, investing for growth. And third, returning capital to shareholders where appropriate.
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On the second, we will continue to invest in products. innovation including AI-enabled solutions in our business transformation initiatives and in opportunistic acquisitions when they become available. We ended fiscal 26 with more than $75 million of total liquidity, comprising $13.3 million of cash and a fully available $62.5 million credit facility. That liquidity provides flexibility to continue executing our plan. At the same time, capital discipline remains important. We returned $28.1 million to shareholders through the repurchase of approximately 1.6 million shares in fiscal 26, ending the year with approximately 11.3 million shares outstanding. We had approximately $20 million remaining under our repurchase authorization at fiscal year end. Our near-term priority is to rebuild cash through internal generation. while continuing to evaluate opportunistic repurchases as conditions warrant. Slide 13 summarizes our fiscal 2027 guidance. The outlook reflects the impact of stronger invoiced amounts and deferred revenue, the cost actions we have taken, and a disciplined assessment of execution and external risks that influence the low end of the guidance range. We expect fiscal 27 revenue of the in the range of $253 to $273 million in constant currency, after including the approximately $2 million reduction in revenue from converting China to a licensee model, which is currently expected to close by the end of the second quarter. Normalizing for the China transition in our revenue presentation, the range implies approximately 1.5% to 5% growth over fiscal 26, or about 3%
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at the midpoint. We expect growth across all of our segments on a comparable basis. We expect fiscal 27 adjusted EBITDA in the range of $29 to $34 million in constant currency. At the midpoint, that implies approximately 9% growth and about 80 basis points of margin expansion, reflecting our expectation that adjusted EBITDA will grow faster than revenue. As Salesforce productivity and cost disciplines translate into operating leverage. As in prior years, results should be weighted towards the second half of the fiscal year. We expect 45% to 50% of annual revenue in the first half, roughly evenly split between the first two quarters, and 30% to 35% of annual adjusted EBITDA in the first half of fiscal 27. Margins should benefit as client deliverance savings and operating leverage billed later in the year. As we think about the cadence for fiscal 27, I'd like to note that we expect first quarter North America invoiced amounts to be lower than the prior year. As we discussed on our first quarter call, Q1 of fiscal 26 included $5.6 million of contractually committed services invoiced up front, primarily tied to a three-year contract with a leading global agricultural company. Our partnership with that client continues with those services being delivered over the contract term, but the upfront invoicing creates a difficult first quarter comparison. This is reflected in our outlook, and we expect North America invoiced amounts to grow for the full year. With our initial transformation investments behind us, and our phase two growth investments funded within our operating budget, we expect adjusted EBITDA growth within
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improved margin and improved free cash flow conversion in Fiscal 27 and beyond. While we are not providing specific multiyear guidance at this time, we've used Fiscal 27 as a year of growth as the momentum built in Fiscal 26 converts, and Fiscal 28 as a year of continued growth and increasing operating leverage. I want to thank the Franklin Covey team for the outstanding results they help our clients achieve every day. Paul, I'll now turn it back to you.
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Thanks, Jesse.
- Q&A41:05
- Operator
Great job taking us through all that. And with that, we'll now ask the operator to open the line with your questions. Thank you. At this time, we'll conduct the question and answer session. As a reminder to ask a question, you will need to press star 11 on your telephone and wait for your name to be announced. To withdraw your question, please press star 11 again. Please stand by while we compile the Q&A roster.
And our first question comes from the line of Alex Paris of Barrington Research. Your line is now open.
Question · Barrington Research
BAlex ParisAnalyst · Barrington ResearchHi, Alex.
Thanks for taking my – hey, how are you doing?
Thanks for taking my question tonight.
A couple of cats and dogs to start with. China, number one, what was revenue and adjusted EBITDA for the full year in fiscal 2026?
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In fiscal 2026, it was about 2% of our revenue, total revenue. And so because of, you know, the transition that we're doing, we're expecting it by the end of Q2. So we are – that's why we were adjusting about half a year. We adjusted the second half of the year of fiscal year 2026 in the guidance that we provided. So it was about $2 million. adjustment to the revenue and neutral on EBITDA. Because the thing in the account is not just the China revenue that comes out, but there's also like the impact with regards to the licensee royalties too.
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So in 2026, did China produce positive adjusted EBITDA or was it an adjusted EBITDA loss in 2026? It was positive adjusted EBITDA. That's why the $2 million takes – so normally – so what we were neutralizing was the revenue impact as well as the EBITDA that's coming from that too, because when we convert it to a license, you would receive that EBITDA as a royalty. 15% of that would come back as a royalty. So that's why we're saying it's EBITDA neutral. Gotcha. So that was my next question.
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Royalty is 15%. That's what I thought. And then just remind me, where do royalties come into the P&L at revenue? At the revenue line? Yeah, it comes in at revenue and it flows through to EBITDA. Okay. Thank you. And then regarding the full year guidance. And just to make sure I got the sequence or the cadence of it, you said 45 to 50% of the full year revenue will be in the first half. 30 to 35% of EBITDA will be in the first half. Correct? That's right. That's right. Okay. And then revenue in Q... Sorry. Similar to historical, that was a similar guidance that we provided this year and that we... that we had this year in actual. And then relative to the first half, we said expect the revenue to be roughly, you know, split equally between the two quarters. And then the adjusted EBITDA will start to, you know, it'll slightly increase. So, you know, second quarter will be a little bit higher. It'll increase throughout the year because of the impact of some of the restructuring that's happened as a compound as you go through the year. Okay, that's great. And then I think you touched on this really quickly, but that's a big difference in full year revenue. Guidance, you know, it could be at 1% in constant currency, it could be at 5%. And you mentioned something about risks on the low end. What would get you to the high end? What would put you at the low end of that guidance? in terms of underlying assumptions? Yeah, so I mean, so in the low end, I mean, when we looked at, you know, what happened this year, for example, there were a couple of timing things that happened. So, you know, the timing of delivery and schedule days, especially with regards to Q4 and what happens in Q4 with education, that's one. You know, we do, we are assuming some of the things that happened this year.
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You know, will, are pushed to this year. But, you know, in the event some of the, those large state deals, for example, if something were to happen, like we're trying to be able to like understand what happened to us this year, right? We don't want to be in a situation that happened to us this year. And we want to be able to think about what those risks can be on the low end. On the high end, it's, you know, it's continuing the progression that we're seeing, right? So, especially in North America, the invoiced amounts. If that, you know, continues to grow at the levels that we're expecting all through the year, and especially if things happen maybe a little bit earlier in the year, first half and second half, that can, sorry, first half, that can translate then into net revenue because you get a higher amount of that conversion in year. That can lead towards a higher, a higher amount in the high end.
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Great. That's helpful. I appreciate that color. And then, and, uh, uh,
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one more cat and dog. Um, you're going to add to the hunting team by about 20% this year. Um, on what basis is that? I think the last time I asked the question, you had somewhere in the neighborhood of 44 hunters. Yeah, that's right. And, and that number fluctuates a little bit. It came down just slightly in the, in the year. Just as you recall. So, so the base is close to that, Alex, and we'll, we'll add about 20% onto that number this year is the short answer there. You'll recall that was a new team. We started up as part of our transition and we hired most of those people from the outside and we've been really pleased with the way that they've ramped. You can see that in some of the percentage increases we shared on the call. And so we'll, we'll grow 20% this year on roughly the same size base. Gotcha. And no, no planned addition to the farming group, which is around 65%. That's right. That's right. We don't need to, we don't need to on that side. As you recall, in previous, you may recall in a previous call, we talked about when we went through the transition, farming is where we had some of our best instincts and some really good talent there. And we didn't, we intentionally didn't cut as deep there in some of the transitions so that we could prepare for the new logos that would come over. And so we built ahead, we had capacity ahead of what we needed, and we'll continue to grow into that.
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BAlex ParisAnalyst · Barrington ResearchAnd then you refer to business developers. Is that what we used to call implementation strategists, or is that a different group of people? Great question. Slightly different group of people. So we still have implementation strategists. Business developers are, as the name would imply, in other, in some organizations, they'll call them SDR, sales developers. But it's the team of people who are qualifying leads, setting appointments for salespeople. They do a lot of outbound cold prospecting. They're filling our marketing events. This is a growing team meant to improve the time on task for our hunters to be in more selling and closing situations, not only in prospecting situations.
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Gotcha. And then lastly, do you plan to add to, or how many business development or SDRs do you have? Oh, that 20 going to 28 somewhere in that neighborhood. Holly Proctor's on there. She can check me if that's not right, but I think that's about right. That's accurate. Excellent. Thank you. And then I guess the last question, I'll let somebody else have a chance. Long-term targets. You've teased about giving those out again. Do you have any plans to update long-term targets? I don't think I've teased. I don't think Jesse's on that. I don't think you're on that one. I think you're on that. So, you know, yeah, as I mentioned, we're not providing that right now, but, you know, obviously... I wanted to indicate that, you know, the momentum for 26, especially in North America, we're seeing that translate into 2027 in terms of the revenue there. We expect 28 to, you know, to continue to grow. I mean, we do expect that, you know, in the longer term, we'll be able to get to higher growth rates, and in each year, our revenue should be growing progressively more. And with adjusted EBITDA, you know, we are... Expecting that we will have that margin improvement and operating leverage continue, you know, each year. Okay, so said another way, you've given us revenue growth targets for fiscal 2027. You're saying in 2028, revenues have continued to grow, but at an increasing rate. So maybe some acceleration in revenue growth and continued adjusted EBITDA margin expansion.
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Yes. Great. All right.
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Thanks, Alex.
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Thank you. One moment for our next question.
Our next question comes online from Neha Jokshi of Northern Capital Markets. Your line is now open.
Hi, Neha.
Hello. Thank you.
Hi, Neha.
Hello. Great to see the evidence that the Hunter transition is working with the double in productivities. That's awesome. Help frame, though, however, that the North America invoice was flat year to year for the August quarter. Why was that? Yeah, so a couple of things. I mean, one I want to highlight, we were focused on the full year in terms of the invoice amounts growing. And so we, if you recall, in Q1, we had a very large of course, of course, of course. contract that was committed up front. It was part of the contractually committed services where we disclosed $5.6 million. A large portion of that 5.6 was that one contract. And that, by the way, that is going to be comparable from Q1 of fiscal year 26 going into Q1 of fiscal year 27. So I do want that people to make sure that you keep that in mind because we are expecting North America invoiced amounts will decline because of the positive impact that we had in Q1 of 26. But anyway, so because of that, you know, we had the growth in Q1, the very high growth in Q1, that sustained in Q2. We were not necessarily expecting to have the same levels of high growth every single quarter. We were, you know, trying to target, you know, what are we going to expect for the full year? So that's, you know, one thing to kind of keep in mind. The core business, I mean, there is a, the core business actually did increase about 1%. There's, you know, some allocations of royalties that, you know, get put in there that kind of made it more neutral and flat.
But, I mean, I think that what you really want to central, you know, focus on is the deferred revenue. What we've built in deferred revenue for North America was 17%. And if you look at that number, we have not had growth at that level. I mean, the last time in 2022 was around 10%. So, we have not had, you know, very high double-digit growth rates of deferred revenue for North America in many years. We're really excited about the momentum that we're seeing and expect that to continue and to grow in this year. But keep in mind, Q1 will be down, but we expect then after Q1 to have growth. Just a point on Q1 as well. At the high level, it'll be down. If you isolate that one contract and you look at all the underlying metrics of the productivity per hunter, so everybody else is growing, will generate, apart from that one large deal, we would have had, again, good invoice growth in Q1. And those same metrics that we just reported out on the productivity per hunter and revenue per client, those are all intact as we move into Q1, apart from just the... timing, the seasonality timing of this one big deal. Okay, got it. And then you also said that you do expect North American invoice amounts to grow for full year, fiscal year 27. Just want to verify, does that include subscription invoice growing also for fiscal year 27? Yes. Yep. Okay, great. And in order for fiscal year 20... ...revenue to accelerate, that would imply that you would expect invoice amounts overall to do better than the 4% for the full year. Is that correct as well? Yes. Yes. Yes, both for North America and then for the broader company to have accelerated reported growth in 28 as well. Areas like education would also return to invoice growth this year.
and set up then the reported growth in 28. Okay. Okay. And then, Jesse, you said that you expect fiscal year 27 free cash flow performance, but the last item that you had to cut off, could you just repeat what you were saying about fiscal year 27 free cash flow performance? Yeah, we're expecting the free cash flow conversion to improve compared to this year. And, you know, that's going to be driven by operating cash flows. Our CapEx and CapD investments are going to be roughly, you know, in total, roughly be, you know, similar to this year. So, maybe a slight increase, but in terms of overall free cash flow conversion, we expect that to improve. Okay, great. And then, Paul, last thing for me in your prepared remarks. I think you mentioned that retention was lower than desired. Did I hear that correct? And if so, why is that? So, the point there, revenue retention improved meaningfully in 26 over where it was in 25. The point in the remarks there was simply, as we saw, revenue per hunter grow meaningfully and revenue per farmer and revenue per customer, new logo and revenue per customer. Existing client also grew meaningfully in 26 over what we'd experienced in our previous selling model. There was a slight offset in the logo retention. So you'll recall that that logo retention has been relatively consistent. It is still relatively consistent. It was a couple of percentage points below where it had been in the previous year. And that was what I was calling out there. We don't see any trend.
We actually expect that that will improve this coming year in fiscal 27. Just a couple of deals that we didn't renew this year that would have renewed in previous years. That's great. All right. Thank you.
Thanks, Nihal.
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Our next question comes from the line of Dave Storms of Stonegate.
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SDave StormsAnalyst · StonegateLine is now open.
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Hi, Dave.
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Evening.
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Hey, Paul.
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Evening, Paul and Jessica.
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SDave StormsAnalyst · StonegateThanks for taking my questions.
Paul, maybe just wanted to stick with that logo retention. It sounded like also in your prepared remarks that you had some initiatives in place maybe to get that back to where you wanted it. Is there any comments you have on what those might look like and how that might manifest? Yeah, absolutely. In fact, Holly, do you want to take that as you and the team? We're focused on customer and revenue retention. Yeah, happy to.
- Paul WalkerChief Executive Officer
Hi, Dave.
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SDave StormsAnalyst · StonegateThanks for the question.
There's a couple of things we're doing to focus on both revenue retention and logo retention. I'll start with the sales structure side. So as Paul referenced, we talked quite a bit about our investment in sales hiring, but there's a bunch of support roles that also help engage our customers. For example, we have a customer success team and many others that are attached to the customer life cycle. We've been sure that we have the highest possible renewal rates and they're set up for success in those engagements. So we've tightened those ratios as a key way to invest in that relationship and ensure that they get the impact that they're realizing. The second is on the solution side, which is what are the things that a customer might migrate to, other new solutions that they're interested in. And one of the trends that we're seeing that we'll double down on this year is you're seeing a lot of customers naturally that have large AI adoption programs and they're looking to partner with. In their AI adoption and rollout. And so we're seeing customers who might have been traditional leadership development clients transition and maintain their leadership development work, but also move into AI adoption related efforts. And so we're hoping to see an increase in retention based on that large trend.
Thank you, Holly.
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And Dave, maybe just since this came up with both you and Nahal, just one other point.
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So we enjoy relatively consistent and steady client retention rates. And it's not uncommon that on occasion a client will have had a very successful engagement with us. The MPS will be very high. The results will have been exactly what they hope to achieve, if not greater. And the next initiative isn't fully lined up yet to start. And so we have a category of clients that we call win-back that are just in that exact situation. Where they're not really gone. There's a lapse there or a lull. And sometimes that can go for a quarter or two. And then we win that client back. And so that's certainly always on the forefront of our mind as well. And I suspect a number – again, there weren't that many in this category. But I suspect we'll win our share back too. Understood. That's a great caller. I appreciate that. On – The AI adoption, Holly, you mentioned there and how clients have those programs. And maybe on the theme of the human edge mattering. For the clients that you're working with this on, does their budget or you get wrapped up with things like their token spend? And I guess what I'm trying to ask there is are your services competing with other ancillary AI spend that they might have? Or do they tend to – to view this as a separate spend category that if they're bringing AI into the fold – Yeah, there's a couple comments to talk through around that, Dave. So one is just who the buyer is. So the other thing that's been unlocked with this solution is, you know, traditionally, if we're working with, let's say, heads of HR or business unit leaders, it is not typical for us to partner with chief technology officers or CIOs. And that has been –
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it's a net new buyer that's been introduced and is engaged in many of these deals because they're both owning not just the purchasing of the technology, but also the successful rollout of that technology. So that's been an incremental net new buyer for us to engage with. And they do, as you said, have, you know, a budget dedicated to technology, but a portion of that budget is dedicated to the adoption of the technology. And the reason why it's viewed separately is because it's generally seen as more of a one-time or point-in-time spend, not recurring as they're budgeting for tokens. Token spend that is recurring in nature and increasing. And so we've been able to price these engagements in partnership with the CIO and think about what might be a two- or three-year adoption plan for their large org that isn't potentially a tied to token spend. I appreciate that. Maybe just one more, switching to some of the conversation around the new hunters. With this... new cohort just trying to think through how, you know, taking a couple quarter J curve. Yeah, a couple comments on ramp time. So, as you mentioned, this is a critical component of the plan. Beating ramp time, really. Accelerates our growth in the year. There's a couple things we're doing on ramp. So, the first to call out is, as Paul referenced, the sales development or SDR rep. This is an investment not just in our lead gen, but also in our talent pipeline. And so, that population of business developers is a group that we've seen promoted into hunter roles. And so, that certainly accelerates ramp time. And we're looking forward to more and more of that internal promotability.
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The second is, I In previous calls, we've referenced an investment we're making in healthcare. And healthcare is a team that we're building out this year. And we've hired several people that are from industry that have great experience in healthcare. And so, while they're ramping to Franklin Covey, they are deep experts in the industry that they serve. And so, we also expect that ramp time to accelerate. And then lastly, part of our hub resources have been deep sales enablement expertise. So, how we train not just on Franklin Covey's content and Franklin Covey's solutions, but on our sales methodology. And so, we're making a bunch of investments there this year as well and look forward to ramping our sellers quicker than we did in prior years. Understood.
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SDave StormsAnalyst · StonegateThank you for taking my questions and good luck for the next quarter.
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Thanks, Dave.
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Thank you. One moment for our next question.
Our next question comes online of Jeff Martin of Roth Capital Partners.
Your line is now open. Thanks.
Good afternoon, everyone.
Hey, Paul.
I wanted to pick your brain about the client environment out there. You feel that the sales cycles are normal at this point? Are they still elongated? Are you seeing hesitation? Are people still expressing macro uncertainty concerns? You know, now that we're post-midterm elections, that things could pick up. Just curious, kind of your pulse on the general market environment for Franklin County Services. I'll give a general comment and then ask Holly to double-click on it with her specific experience. But I would say, as we think about this over time, the external environment we have seen for the last few quarters now is… Relatively stable, particularly in North America. Maybe not quite the same to the same degree internationally in some of the regions around the world. There's maybe a little more unevenness out there for various reasons. But in North America, our core markets for both education and enterprise, which makes up the vast, vast majority of our revenues, it's been pretty consistent now and stable for a while. I don't know exactly what last night's election. We'll see how that plays out in the coming days. But generally, we're not seeing that as headwind. And I think stability actually is a little bit of a potential tailwind for us. I believe that doesn't have to be an amazing environment, but a stable environment is actually a good thing. So, Holly, I don't know if you would add anything to that.
Yeah, I agree with Paul's comments on stability. I'll just add a couple more points. And I just want to remind you of the large addressable market that we serve. There's almost no industry that we don't partner with today. And so, while there might be peaks in one industry and troughs in another, we have really great diversity across the industries we serve in a really large market. The second, as we referenced to the AI solutions earlier, it is obviously a massive wave and there's not a leader out there right now that's not struggling with how to figure out how to get the most out of their AI investments. And so, while there might be. Other market conditions that are challenging. And that is such a large wave for us. And so, we're really invested there and seeing a lot of progress. And then last is one of the other market trends that's been interesting is to watch the shift of some of our services move from potentially delivered online to delivered in person. And the spirit of that is that leaders are really feeling pulled to unite their teams, especially during all this disruption, and bring them together to focus on the vision they're trying to accomplish. So, it's been interesting to watch. You know, that shift, and that's been another great opportunity for us to invest and build more meaningful relationships with clients in person. Thank you. And I appreciate the, you know, the reminder on the first quarter difficult comparison or, you know, just was curious if there are other items that are worth pointing out, you know, for other quarters in fiscal 27 that would be.
Challenging or beneficial to the year-over-year comparisons. No, no, just Q1. Just Q1. Got it. All right.
Thank you very much.
Thank you, Jeff.
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I'm showing no further questions at this time. I'll now turn it back to Paul for closing remarks.
- Paul WalkerChief Executive Officer
Wonderful.
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