CRUS earnings / call
CRUS earnings call transcript, November 4, 2026
Cirrus Logic Q2 FY27 Earnings Call
Key takeaways from this call : results vs expectations, guidance, what analysts asked
- Management 43%
- John Forsyth 24%
- Ken 2%
- Chelsea 0%
- Jeff Wollard 0%
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John Forsyth
Chief Executive Officer
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Ken
Management
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Chelsea
Management
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Jeff Wollard
Chief Financial Officer
<1 min
Analysts · 3
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Transcribed automatically by Lician from the company's public webcast; it can contain errors and speaker names are best effort.
- Prepared remarks0:02
- Operator
Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by. Welcome. Welcome to the CirrusLogic second quarter fiscal year 2027 financial results call.
At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. After a brief statement, we will open up the call for questions from analysts. Instructions for queuing up will be provided at that time. As a reminder, this conference call is being... ...recorded for replay purposes. I would now like to turn the conference call over to Ms. Chelsea Heffernan, Vice President of Investor Relations. Ms. Heffernan, you may begin.
- Management
Thank you and good afternoon.
- Management
Joining me on today's call is John Forsyth, Cirrus Logic's Chief Executive Officer, and Jeff Wollard, our Chief Financial Officer. Today, at approximately 4 p.m. Eastern Time, we announced our financial results for the second quarter. For fiscal year, 2027. The shareholder letter discussing our financial results, the earnings press release, and the webcast of this Q&A session are all available at the company's investor relations website. This call will feature questions from the analysts covering our company. Additionally, the results and guidance we will discuss on this call will include non-GAAP financial measures that exclude certain items. Reconciliations of these non-GAAP measures for the most... ...directly comparable GAAP measures are included in our earnings release and are all available on the company's investor relations website. Please note that during this session, we may make projections and other forward-looking statements that are... ...subject to risks and uncertainties that may cause actual results to differ materially from projections. By providing this information, the company expressly disclaims any obligation to update or revise any projections or forward-looking... ...statements, whether as a result of new developments or otherwise. Please refer to the press release in the shareholder letter issued today, which are available on the SarasLogic website. The latest Form 10-K, as well as other corporate...
- Management
...filings registered with the Securities and Exchange Commission for additional discussion of risk factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from current expectations. Now I'd like to turn the call over to John.
- John ForsythChief Executive Officer
Thank you, Chelsea, and welcome to everyone joining today's call. As you have seen in the press release, Cirrus Logic delivered solid results for the September quarter with revenue of $559.5 million, up 22% security. Sequentially, as well as gap and non-gap earnings per share of $2.23 and $2.70, respectively. Jeff will walk through the financials and our outlook for the December quarter in a few minutes. Before that, I'll... I'll cover what we've accomplished since August, a period that included important tape-outs, the first production orders for new industrial products, and an acquisition. I'll discuss progress on each of our three strategic priorities in turn. We are leading in smartphone audio, growing our high-performance Mixed Signal, or HPMS, content in smartphones and related devices, and expanding into new markets and applications. Starting with smartphone audio, this fall, our latest... ...generation custom-boosted amplifier and 22-nanometer smart codec were again featured in newly-launched flagship devices, and demand for both remained strong through the quarter. Beyond audio performance and power efficiency, these components enable considerable flexibility in system design. History is a good guide to their anticipated longevity. The prior generations of our codec and amplifiers shipped in flagship devices for five and six years. respectively. And we expect this generation to follow a similar path, giving us durable revenue and good visibility in our flagship business. Looking ahead, we remain closely engaged with our customer on future audio innovation.
As we continue to invest in our leadership in this core area of our business. Turning to our second priority, we're making good progress growing our HPMS content in smartphones. A great example of this is our camera controllers, where we have introduced... ...three generations of products since 2020, with each being more capable than the last. Historically, each one has launched in premium models before being designed into a wider range of devices, and we saw exactly that path. ...in this quarter, with a higher attach rate of our third-generation controller in certain models of recently-introduced smartphones. Continuing to execute on our camera roadmap, we have also now taped out our fourth-generation controller. ...which we expect to enter production in calendar year 2028 and to further increase our content per device. Beyond cameras, we are also seeing good traction in battery and power, where we are continuing the design... ...of our smart power IC for 3D sensing, and are in development on a new custom power and battery product. Taking a step back to look at our smartphone business as a whole, we see our content growing in layers with both broad... ...moder adoption of the parts we already ship, and then new components on top of that. In the near term, over roughly the next 18 months, we expect successive launch windows to bring higher attach rates across a number of our existing ICs.
Beyond that, we also expect to build on these gains and further increase our content pair device with multiple new components that are now in development, including our fourth generation camera controller, the smart power IC, for 3D sensing, and other HPMS components. And we expect continued positive contributions from accessories, wearables, and other non-smartphone devices. To reiterate a comment I made in the last video, we'll see you next time. The pipeline of opportunity across our core audio and HPMS business is among the strongest in the company's recent history. Moving to our third priority, I'll start with PCs. Since we last spoke, the headwinds... we described in this market have not eased. Shortages of memory and other components, and the higher prices that follow, are weighing on PC demand, and market research now points to significant unit declines this year, with further pressure on... ...shipments in calendar 2027. In response, OEMs have pushed out some new model launches, and in many cases, those newer models are expected to carry more of our content per system and ship in higher volumes. While that's impacting our near-term outlook, the design wins behind those models are still in place, we're actively engaged with customers on new programs, and we believe we're positioned for growth as demand recovers. Setting those market dynamics aside, we are seeing tangible evidence of progress in our PC business. In August, I mentioned that several customers planned to ship RTX Spark-based systems with our amplifiers and codecs on.
In October, one of those launched, a new premium PC built on NVIDIA's RTX Spark platform with a six-speaker audio system powered by Sirius Logic amplifiers and a codec. This is a great showcase for the kind of rich, high-fidelity audio we can deliver in thin, power-efficient designs. Audio is one way we're adding value to new PC designs. Voice is another. And this is an area we are particularly excited about as PCs become... ...increasingly AI-centric. We see a significant opportunity to enable voice as the natural interface for AI-enabled PCs and agentic workflows. Our latest smart codec integrates a dedicated DS... ...and a low-power wake-up signal chain that handles wake-word detection, noise reduction, and audio buffering independently of the CPU or NPU. This enables an always-on conversational interaction while simultaneously preserving battery life. Customer interest in this component continued to be strong this quarter, and over time, we expect voice to move from premium platforms into mainstream designs. Further expanding our product portfolio in this area, during the quarter, we also taped out our... ...second-generation smart codec for AI-enabled PCs, which we expect to sample to customers in the coming calendar year. We also see a growing opportunity in AI gadgets and smart glasses as AI assistants become accessible via new types of... wearable and portable devices. These are small battery-powered products that need great voice interfaces, great audio, and very efficient power management. And these areas are precisely in our wheelhouse.
We are engaged with several market leaders today, and we expect end devices using our products to reach the market in the next few quarters. In our general market business, I'd like to highlight two milestones this quarter. First, as we anticipate... As we anticipated in August, we began sampling our new analog front-end components for smart metering. Second, we received the first production orders for our new industrial imaging components. These products are built for high-preceding... ...and precision scanning in applications such as line-scan machine vision and optical inspection. Instead of piecing together several separate components, customers get one integrated, scalable imaging front-end, which means improved speed, better efficiency... ...and lower system cost. Customer engagement has been high since we introduced this family earlier this year, and we expect mass production to begin in the December quarter. Finally, I'm pleased to share that subsequent... ...to the end of the quarter, we completed the acquisition of Inventum, a fabulous semiconductor company based in Pavia, Italy, that specializes in mixed signal power management and audio ICs. This is a team we know very well and with whom... We've worked closely over the past five years, so we've seen their engineering talent and R&D capabilities firsthand. The combined team expands our engineering capacity and strengthens our position and portfolio in the emerging consumer...
...wearable and AI gadget markets that I mentioned earlier. I'd like to extend a warm welcome to the Inventum team, and that concludes the latest update on our long-term growth strategy. So let me now turn the call over to Jeff to provide an overview of our...
- Jeff WollardChief Financial Officer
financial results, as well as the outlook.
- Management
Thank you, John.
- Management
Good afternoon, everyone. I'll now walk through our Q2 financial results and provide guidance for Q3. In Q2 fiscal 2027... ...we delivered revenue of $559.5 million, which was above the midpoint of our guidance range. Revenue was up 22% sequentially and flat year-over-year. The sequential increase reflects higher smartphone... ...volumes in increased content shipping into smartphones, and to a lesser extent, growth in custom components in non-smartphone applications. This was partially offset by a decline in PCs, and to a lesser extent... ...a reduction in revenue from certain general market components that are coming to their end of life. On a year-over-year basis, an increase in smartphone unit volumes and higher content shipping into smartphones was offset... ...by lower general market sales and previously anticipated pricing reductions. Turning to gross profit and gross margin. Non-GAAP gross profit in the September quarter was $300.8 million... ...and non-GAAP gross margin was 53.8 percent. On a sequential basis, the increase in gross margin reflects lower waiver costs, largely driven by the temporary benefit from waivers purchased under prior agreements. ...with global foundries that we discussed last quarter, as well as lower production ramp expenses. On a year-over-year basis, an increase in gross margin was largely due to a favorable product mix, lower inventory... ...reserves and that same temporary wafer benefit. This was partially offset by higher freight costs and supply chain costs. Now I'll turn to operating expenses. Our non-GAAP operating expense...
- Management
...for the second quarter was $141.6 million. On a sequential basis, OPEX was up $6.2 million, primarily driven by higher product development expenses and variable compensation. Within employee-related expenses... ...higher salaries from increased headcount were offset by a seasonal reduction in benefit costs. On a year-over-year basis, operating expense was up $13.9 million, primarily due to higher employee-related expenses. ...product development expenses, and R&D development expenses. This was partially offset by lower variable compensation. These increases are consistent with our previously communicated plan to increase R&D investment in fiscal... ...to support the range of opportunities across our business. Non-GAAP operating income for the quarter was $159.2 million, or 28.5% of revenue. Turning now to taxes. For the September quarter, our non-GAAP tax rate was 17.5%. And lastly, on the P&L, non-GAAP net income was $139.2 million, resulting in... earnings per share of $2.70. Let me now turn to the balance sheet. Our balance sheet continues to be strong, and we ended the September quarter with $1.1 billion in cash and investments. Our ending cash and investments balance was down $90.9. million from the prior quarter as share repurchases more than offset cash generated from operations. We continue to have no debt outstanding. Inventory at the end of the second quarter was $271.2.
- Management
million up from $262.7 million in the prior quarter. Days of inventory were down sequentially and we ended the quarter with approximately 96 days of inventory. Turning to cash flow. Cash flow from operations was $50.9 million in the September quarter and capex was $8.6 million, resulting in non-gap free cash flow margin of 8%. For the trailing 12-month period. Cash flow from operations was $557.3 million and capex was $31.7 million. This resulted in a non-gap free cash flow margin of 26%. On share buybacks, in Q2, we utilized $125.5 million to repurchase 991,983 shares of common stock at an average price of $126.51. At the end of Q2, fiscal 2027, the company had $114.1 million remaining on its share repurchase authorization. The Board of Directors recently authorized the company to repurchase up to an additional $500 million. of Cirrus Logic common stock. Subsequent to Q2, fiscal year 27, the company utilized $18.6 million to repurchase 170,757 shares. an average price of $108.67 under a Rule 10B-5-1 trading plan. Now on to guidance. For Q3, fiscal 2027, we expect revenue in the range of 510. to $570 million. GAP gross margin is expected to range from 51% to 53%. Non-GAP operating expense is expected to range from $152 to $158 million. Additionally, as we indicated previously, given the breadth of opportunities ahead of us, we expect our full fiscal year 2027 operating expenses to increase as we invest in R&D.
- Management
The fiscal 2027 non-GAAP effective tax rate is expected to range from 16% to 18%.
- Q&A16:29
- Management
Before we turn to Q&A, I'd like to address a number of investor questions that we received in advance. of this call related to our October 13th filing on Synaptics. We made acquisition proposals for Synaptics and are not currently pursuing a transaction. We pursued it because the strategic logic was strong. Pairing our mixed signal audio and power expertise with Synaptics connectivity and sensing would have built a broader edge platform and diversified our customer and end market mix. We also went in with a clear view of value and we held to it. We put forward what. What we believed was a compelling proposal for Synaptic shareholders that was also right for Cirrus Logic shareholders. When the price moved beyond that, we stepped back. Two things should be clear. First, inorganic growth is a real part of our strategy and we will keep. evaluating opportunities that strengthen our platform and broaden our markets. Second, we will stay disciplined. Our balance sheet and cash generation give us flexibility. We intend to use it in ways that create value for our shareholders. Finally, I would also like to note that while we understand there is an intense interest related to our largest customer, in accordance with Cirrus Logic company policy, we will not discuss specifics about our business relationship. With that...
- Management
Let me turn the call over to Chelsea to start the Q&A session.
- ChelseaManagement
Thanks, Jeff.
We will now start the Q&A portion of the earnings call. Please limit yourself to a single question and one follow-up. Operator, we are now ready to take questions.
- Operator
We will now begin. the Q&A session. As stated, please limit yourself to one question and one follow-up. If you would like to ask a question, please press star 1 to raise your hand. To withdraw your question, press star 1. We ask that you pick up your handset when asking a question to allow for optimum sound quality. If you are muted locally, please remember to unmute your device. Please stand by while we compile the Q&A roster.
Your first question comes from the line of Tor Spanberg with Stiefel. Your line is open. Please go ahead.
Question · Stiefel
Tor SpanbergAnalyst · StiefelHi, guys.
- KenManagement
This is Ken. I'm cheering on for Tori Spanberg at Stiefel. Yeah, I just wanted to ask on Inventum a little bit. So I'm curious if their battery management and charging IP feeds into the smartphone. Roadmap for your battery IC that you called out in your slide deck? Or is that more focused on non-smartphone markets? And maybe just kind of also more broadly, can you talk a little bit about the rationale behind Inventum? Yeah, sure.
Question · Stiefel
Tor SpanbergAnalyst · StiefelThanks for the question.
The IP that is in the battery IC we've referred to there in the shareholder letter and the shareholder presentation is based on homegrown IP that we've been developing over years. So many of the people listening to this call will have heard me say that that's an area we've been investing in for some time now and we believe we can offer really differentiated solutions. around the battery. So the inventive team is a great team. It's a very high performing set of engineers, but we didn't go after them for IP in relation to that. They do have some IP and crucially a lot of expertise around mixed signal areas that we care a lot about power management, audio and the like. And it's also it's also a team we know. Very well, having collaborated with them over the past five years. So we do think that their expertise and some of what they've been working on plays very well to another area that I talked about in relation to the emerging. that degree of AI gadgets, AI wearables and so on. And we certainly think they they're going to bring a lot to the table for us in that area. All right. Thank you. And then for my follow. I just want to ask, I'm not sure if you guys can answer this, but is there any, you know, difference or maybe relative comment that you can make on content for you guys in the duo versus the 18 pro iPhones? Thank you. Um, we, uh, uh, yeah, we, we have seen, um, uh, some teardowns now, uh, I think. So, uh, obviously we're, uh, you know, we got asked this question.
- Management
Uh, many times every quarter in advance of the rumored device and we couldn't say anything. Um, thankfully out in the wild, there are, uh, there are teardowns now. So, uh, yeah, we, we have, uh, uh, two audio amps in there. So you can go and go and see. This, uh, on the web, we have two audio amps, uh, haptics driver, um, a, uh, codec, uh, and the, the amps and the codec are obviously our, um, uh, latest generation products, uh, and then two camera control.
- Operator
As a reminder, if you would like to ask a question, please press star one to raise your hand.
Your next question comes from the line of Tom O'Malley with Barclays.
Your line is open. Please go ahead.
Question · Barclays
Tom O'MalleyAnalyst · BarclaysHey, guys.
Thanks for taking my question.
I had a question on the camera controllers as well. You talked about continued proliferation of the third generation camera controller, and you talked about the fourth coming in 2028. Is there a roadmap that you can see that content stepping up as well in the interim period of time? I know that you mentioned, too, with the duo, you've seen even more camera controllers on some phones in the past. Any comment about potential increasing... ...on that third-generation camera controller? Yeah, thanks, Tom. We definitely think there's going to be continued accretion in camera content before we get to the fourth-generation controller. And you got the... the timing right on the fourth-generation controller there. And that's actually part of a broader attach rate story. So I mentioned this in my prepared remarks, and we touch on it in the last... But basically, we have a very positive setup over the next few years, consisting of both growth with content that we have already developed and are shipping today, and then... new content, which is incremental to what we ship today, and then certain introductions like, as you said, newer generations of the camera controller. So in the camera space, but... not just in the camera space, actually, across multiple products, we can see opportunity for content attach rates to grow in the coming couple of years. In fact, what we...
- Management
growth based on a range of content that we're shipping today. That's not to say attach rate growth ends after 18 months, but it's just to say that in each of those launch windows, we see that as one of the tailwinds too. to our results. And then obviously we have a number of new products in development as well. So the camera controller that you mentioned, we've also talked about the smart. IC for sensing the smart power IC. And then in the prepared remarks, then the shareholder letter, we also alluded to further HPMS content, which is again, based in the, in the battery and power space. Which we've clearly been investing in for some time. And, and, you know, we're, we're delighted to say that we now have another business award in that space, which will represent. Incremental content in a, in a very high volume socket as well. Super helpful. And then my follow up is just on gross margin. So we saw the close of a. Well, at least the first report of two large RF providers. And it looks as though you are seeing some margin pressures into the next calendar year. Obviously, you have a very different relationship with your largest customer, but there are very severe component costs, Edwin. And there is pressure kind of across the semi-universe. So maybe just talk about your ability to keep gross margins at this level with that kind of backdrop. Obviously, in the past, like that relationship hasn't worked like that, but there's never been anything this extreme. Would just love to get your view there.
Question · a high point for us from a gross margin this quarter
AYeah, Tom, thanks. Yeah, as we mentioned, you know, this is kind of a high point for us from a gross margin this quarter, where we're benefiting from some of the wafer prices. We had previously. And you can see from our guide, you know, that does drop down from our high point, you know, into that 51 to 53. We see that, you know. As far as our foreseeable future, we believe we can be in that range. Now, you mentioned it's very tight out there. It is very tight out there. We see that as well. We'd also talked about, you know, we do have some way for agreements. that give us certainty for price and capacity. So we do have some insight into what things look like in the future. I think the back end is very tight and something we manage, you know. We manage on an almost daily basis to making sure we have capacity. And, you know, those agreements are, I think, fluid in that part of the supply chain. But we'll continue to manage that. And we will be. We will be implementing some targeted price increases across our portfolio. So, you know, I think it's a little reckless to go too far out. But as far as we can see, we're comfortable with. That 51 to 53 percent range. And there are no more questions at this time. So I'll turn the call back over to John for final remarks.
- John ForsythChief Executive Officer
Thank you, Chelsea.
- Operator
Wait, Chelsea. Oh, actually, sorry. Just jumped in the queue. And with that, your next question comes from the line of Christopher Rowland with Susquehanna. Your line is open. Please go ahead.
Question · Susquehanna
Christopher RowlandAnalyst · SusquehannaSorry for the late ad. And thanks for for squeezing me in. I guess a couple from me. First is the decline in September. I think it's it's fairly rare that you see. A decline in the December quarter. Are there is there anything else to note there around inventory or build the heads or something? Is there anything affecting seasonality that we should be thinking about there?
- Management
Yeah, thanks for the question. So if you I'm going to kind of take you back and look at the full year because I think you have to replay it a little bit to understand the story. But. You know, the full year is roughly in line with our expectations where we started the year and then we talked about, but the shape of the quarters was going to be a little different. You know, that first half is strongly skewed towards premium smart. Bones, which obviously our content is highest. And if you go back to Q1, if you remember, we were up 3% when we would traditionally have been down 9% in that quarter. And this was part of that flatter seasonality. You know, it's just a much heavier content in a heavier pro mix. Q2 ended up being a little higher. Obviously, we came above the midpoint where that ramp came in a little bit more than we had expected. And so we had more. Revenue in June and September and some of that December revenue got pulled into September, you know, also a reminder, you know, when we think about camera contents that ships a little earlier than the other components. So, you know, there really hasn't been. A change in demand, it's really a timing issue. When we look at the March quarter, we see that returning to something that's closer to what we'd see from a normal seasonality, particularly when you. Bacon, you know, PCs have not been meeting our expectations for a lot of the supply chain environment we've talked about on PCs. I think next year that looks, you know, not guiding specifically to next year, but I think next year.
- Management
You'll see that a little bit more traditionally balanced with weight growth with with growth weighted to the second half where there are also, you know, have some content gains and probably will be a tough compare to this year where that first half. is just so heavily weighted to the premium, the premium phones. Excellent.
- Management
Thank you for that.
Question · Susquehanna
Christopher RowlandAnalyst · SusquehannaVery helpful. My next question.
And then I might have one more, believe it or not, after that. But you mentioned that you would see content attached rates grow in launches in the next 18 months. I was wondering if there were any other details around type of product or application or anything you can speak about there, and maybe even the magnitude of that content growth. Yeah, Chris, unfortunately, I don't want to say too much, obviously, about customer products. We want to be very respectful of their plans, but as I said, it doesn't. Extend across multiple product areas for us. So that gives us a very good set of stepping stones of content accretion on our way to the introduction. Of holding new incremental sockets that we've that we've also talked about. Fantastic, John. And last one for me, I promise. Synaptic. You know, this is primarily a digital company, a consumer based company, overlap both in PC and mobile as well. Kind of similar to you guys. Is this the kind of thing that you are interested in going forward on the M&A front and just kind of unpacking? Your opportunistic kind of view of buying them, is this the kind of thing you might be looking for in the future? Well, I certainly would say, yeah, we're very... keen to engage in M&A where we feel that that can authentically create value for shareholders and, you know, enable us to offer something that's really compelling to customers. I think we've been pretty clear.
- Management
That, you know, our capital allocation priorities put our organic opportunities first, but M&A is second, where we can identify great M&A opportunities. In this case, you know, you've alluded to it that Cirrus has class-leading mixed signal assets. Synaptics has some solid assets in closely adjacent areas like touch sensing and so on. And there are various places, whether that's PCs. Or automotive and so on, where we obviously show up very close to each other. So, you know, for example, they do touch and display controllers in cabin. We do haptics in cabin. And so on. Similar with trackpads and PCs. So we saw, you know, a good thesis. There are opportunities to build more complete solutions to offer customers. I think there are more. You know, many more ways than that of creating value at the edge around our technologies. And, you know, that's something we we obviously think a lot about. And. Yeah, we will, you know, obviously be disciplined with M&A as we have been in this case. We we had, as Jeff said, a very clear view of the value and, you know, we feel very strongly strong. A positive sentiment about our own organic plan and don't want to do anything that puts the value that organic plan is going to create at risk. But we'll continue to look for opportunities for us to to grow the the offering. Great. And that was our last question. So now I'll turn the call back to John.
- John ForsythChief Executive Officer
Thank you, Chelsea.
Question · Susquehanna
Christopher RowlandAnalyst · SusquehannaSo in summary, Sirius Logic delivered strong results for the September quarter, and we continue to make good progress across. Each pillar of our long-term strategy. Between the numerous content opportunities that we see in our core business, the products we've just taped out, and the progress we're making in new markets, we're very excited about what lies ahead. I'd like to thank all of our employees around the world for their dedication to innovation and to supporting our customers' success. In what remains a challenging supply environment, I also want to recognize our Foundry and OSAT partners, whose close collaboration... ...and responsiveness have been instrumental in enabling us to meet demand. And I'd like to express our appreciation to our customers for putting their trust in us, and to all of you for your continued interest in our progress. Finally, I'd like to thank everyone for participating today. Goodbye.
- Operator
This concludes today's call.
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- Operator
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