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BTGO earnings call transcript, November 9, 2026
BitGo Q3'26 Earnings Call
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- Prepared remarks10:04
- Operator
Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by. My name is Krista and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the BitGo Holdings third quarter 2026 earnings call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent.
- Q&A10:20
- Operator
any background noise. After the speaker's remarks, there will be a question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question at that time, simply press star, send the number one on your telephone keypad. And if you would like to withdraw your question, again, press star one. Thank you. I would now like to turn the call. over to Rachel Dye, head of investor relations. Rachel, please go ahead.
Thank you. And good afternoon, everyone. Our remarks today will include forward-looking statements. These include statements about our operating outlook, financial conditions. Business strategy, market opportunity, and future plans. Actual results may differ materially from these statements. Information about risks and uncertainties appears in our SEC filings under the heading Risk Factors in our annual report on Form 10-K and our quarterly reports on Form 10-Q. The forward-looking statements we make today reflect our views. only as of today. We undertake no obligation to update them except as required by law. We will also discuss GAAP and non-GAAP financial measures. A reconciliation of each non-GAAP financial measure to the most directly comparable measure calculated in accordance with GAAP is contained in our earnings release and investor presentation, each of which is a available on the investor relations section of our website at investors.bitgo.com. Non-GAAP measures should be considered in addition to and not as a substitute for GAAP measures. Joining me today are Mike Belshi, co-founder and CEO, Chen Feng, chief revenue officer, and Ali. Vopra, BitGo's new chief accounting officer. Ali joins us from KPMG. Mike, over to you.
Thank you, Rachel, and thank you all for joining us today. During the third quarter, we continued to strengthen BitGo's institutional platform and improve the operating efficiency of our business. Total revenue was... $2.9 billion. Net income was $44.1 million. And adjusted EBITDA was a loss of $4.3 million. Our revenue and performance reflected continued weakness in digital asset trading activity. Following the increase in digital asset prices in mid-August, approximately two-thirds of our clients who traded with us in Q2 traded less in... Digital asset sales margin was approximately 15 basis points on the quarter, driven by a higher mix of activity from lower margin stablecoins. On the expense side, we continue to improve operating efficiency, with our second quarter cost reduction initiatives contributing to lower operating efficiency. We also continue to make meaningful progress, leveraging AI to improve engineering productivity. Since the beginning of the year, engineering output is up 65%, while we have simultaneously reduced engineering headcount, token costs, and overall AI spend. Separately, we reduce cloud... ...infrastructure costs by migrating select workloads from AWS to our own infrastructure. These advances are enabling us to accelerate innovation, expand our capabilities, and offering to our clients, and continue playing a leading role in developing the market structure that will shape the future of...
Lastly, during the quarter, we repurchased approximately $25 million of our common stock under our $50 million authorization, reflecting our confidence in the BitGo long-term opportunity and our commitment to disciplined capital allocation. We will discuss the financial results in greater detail shortly. First, let me cover the key operating and strategic developments during the quarter. Turning to our operating highlights. At the end of Q3, using actual September 30th digital asset prices, assets on platform exceeded $83 billion and assets staked were approximately $6 billion. On a reported basis, assets on platform declined from $65.2 billion to approximately $59.9 billion, while reported assets staked declined from $11.9 billion to approximately $10.5 billion. These declines reflect... ...like lower median digital asset prices used in our quarterly calculations, rather than the decline in the amount of digital assets held by our clients. On a normalized basis, assets on platform increased slightly from $59.6 billion in Q2 to $59.9 billion sequentially, and normalized assets staked... ...increased from $10.4 billion to $10.5 billion. Beyond the strength of the assets on our platform, we also successfully expanded our global footprint by capitalizing on transparency, speed, and compliance benefits that come with being a publicly traded company and a federally... Chartered National Trust Bank, Bitco Bank & Trust National Association. This included opening a larger Singapore office to satisfy the increased appetite for digital asset prime services amongst the family offices and ultra-high net worth individuals, and successfully launching Bitco Korea as the first new Korean entity established by a global...
digital asset company by securing our vast license to provide custody and transfer services for local institutional and enterprise clients across finance and technology. While we have strengthened our operating model, we have continued investing in the capabilities that make our... platform more valuable to clients. Everything we built in this quarter runs through a single idea. A client should be able to reach liquidity everywhere without moving assets off our platform. That is made possible by our proprietary Go network and three things further advanced it during the quarter. In July, we launched our global liquidity layer, Tobacco Prime. Providing clients access to exchanges market makers and OTC counterparties through a single platform. We also expanded our liquidity network in the with the addition of Virtu Financial, a leading global market maker. In September, our relationship with crossover market. A digital asset trading technology firm surpassed $2 billion in cumulative notional volume. That volume was executed on their electronic communication network, CrossX, and all of it was settled through the GO network, which allows for digital asset movement in and out of cold storage. We also extended access to on-chain trading through integrations with Hyperliquid and Decibel. Eligible clients today can connect to these venues through their existing BitGo self-custody wallets while retaining established controls over wallet access and fund transfers. And finally, to close out the quarter, we completed our
off-exchange settlement integration with OKEx to expand to international markets, building on our existing U.S. relationship established back in April. This allows eligible institutions around the globe to access OKEx's trading liquidity while keeping their digital assets stored. rather than moving them onto the exchange. The common thread with all of our services is the custody layer. Because the assets stay with us, we have the flexibility to address more unique requests from eligible institutional clients, such as locking tokens and building structures with calls and puts against them, and to also then use those positions as collateral for financing. None of that functionality exists as a standalone application. It required regulated infrastructure, secure custody, and an interoperable platform that brings those capabilities together, and lasting partnerships and integrations to activate this ecosystem. Security and asset protection have always been at the core of BICO's business since our founding in 2013. We believe our reputation and track record for security is one of the primary reasons institutions choose BICO. For more than a decade, we have continuously invested in building one of the industry's most secure custody platforms combined. Regulated, qualified custody with geographically distributed key management, multi-signature technology, and rigorous operational controls.
That's why we continue to be a household name among the largest institutions and are now live with 33 different U.S. crypto ETFs with more. They're currently onboarding. Recent security incidents across the industry reinforce why this matters. Only in crypto markets are institutions required to hold assets at individual exchanges to access their trading products and liquidity, exposing those assets to exchange counterparty risk. BitGo's Go network offers a differentiated approach. Institutions can manage their assets and regulated custody at BitGo while accessing the expanding network of trading venues, products, and liquidity. As we add more exchanges and integrations, clients gain greater trading flexibility and settlement capabilities without having to distribute their assets. across multiple exchange counterparties. We believe this combination of institutional-grade security, regulated custody, and broader market access should represent the industry standard for digital asset market infrastructure. Even though the Clarity Act was not enacted, BitGo is actively building the market structure. that institutions demand now. Today's digital asset exchanges were built initially for retail. As institutions have entered the market, they've been perplexed as neither the operating capabilities, the regulatory standing, or the market structure provided by those early exchanges met the rigorous standards of traditional financial institutions.
One of those standards is the separation of duties. In traditional finance, trading venues never custody your assets. Execution, custody, and clearing sit with separate institutions. That separation is deliberate because it means no single point of failure can take your assets down with it. This failure to segregate... Duties were one of the primary causes of historical failures at Mt. Gox, QuadrigaCX, Coincheck, and FTX. In each case, these failures of the exchange not only affected the market, but customer assets were lost. That's the challenge that BitGo's GO Network solves with our OV Exchange Settlement product. OES lets you allocate assets for trading on an exchange. while keeping your funds safe in Bicco, a regulated fiduciary and national trust bank. Let me demonstrate while using an account at OKEx, a leading global crypto exchange that recently announced a major partnership with the New York Stock Exchange. With Bicco OES, the client instead leads to Bitcoin. Bicco's regulated custody and virtually allocates a portion of their assets onto the exchange. My OKEx account is connected to my Go account, which is enabled for OES, and now appears next to my custody holdings. Nothing is moved. Now I'll allocate from my custody holdings. into my OKEx account. Watch the OKEx balance.
There it is. Instantly. That was a ledger movement on the Go network with no blockchain transaction and no waiting. My assets are still in Bitco custody in my name. What changed is that my OKEx account now has a balance that I can trade with, backed by the... those assets. The exchange then recognizes the client's balance from Bitco and allows the client to trade against it. From the trader's perspective, it's a normal deposit on the exchange, and that's by design. I can now trade directly on the exchange, and Bitco isn't in the order or execution path. I can now trade however I want and run whatever strategies I want. Nothing about how I trade changes. I was able to connect to an exchange account, allocate assets instantly, while keeping them in custody and trade against them, with settlement running automatically in the background. This is what industry maturation looks like. This is what... institutions demand. Institutions aren't lowering their standards just to enter crypto. Crypto's infrastructure is rising to meet their needs. OES, powered by the GO network, gives them that separation of execution and custody that they're used to, now with the venues and liquidity of digital assets. Changing gears... In August, we acquired NYDIG's institutional trading business, which marks an important step in broadening BitGo's financial services offering. NYDIG was founded in 2017 and established itself as the industry's premier steward for institutional Bitcoin mandates.
We've completed the acquisition on August 27th and have since launched BitGo Global Markets, adding expertise in derivatives, structured products, and financing, along with established institutional client relationships. These capabilities complement our existing platform, expanding the range of financial services we can offer institutional clients, and creating additional opportunities. to deepen those relationships over time. Today, BitGo supports nearly a hundred different protocols and over 2,800 tokens, which significantly expands NYDAX product offerings. The team is also central to this opportunity. Pete Janney spent 15 years at Credit Suisse, running equity derivatives businesses, and is now the head of BitGo Global Markets. He leads an established team of trading, technology, and operations professionals who joined BitGo through the acquisition. For BitGo's existing clients, NYDAX offerings introduced additional yield generation opportunities, coupled with hedging and financing solutions. All supported by a well-experienced team in structuring solutions around institutional needs. We expect to improve operating efficiency as we integrate the business and leverage our existing technology, operations, and compliance infrastructure. I'll hand the call over to Chen Feng, our Chief Revenue Officer, to discuss...
- Chen FengChief Revenue Officer
...our tokenized equities commercial priorities and how we intend to bring those capabilities to clients.
- Management
Thank you, Mike.
- Management
Tokenized equities are an important commercial priority for BitGo. The opportunity extends beyond... ...presenting shares on a blockchain. Institutions need infrastructure to securely hold those assets, transfer, and settle them. That is the vision behind Goldstocks, the platform we are developing to bring traditional equities on-chain. Our ambition is to connect... ...additional asset ownership with the flexibility of on-chain markets, supported by BitGo's custody and financial infrastructure. We have already demonstrated elements of that infrastructure. In February, BitGo and Vigor completed the... ...first blockchain-native equity trades on Figor's alternative trading system. In July, during the limited production event for DTCC's tokenization service, BitGo Bank & Trust, an OCC-regulated full-service qualified custodian, integrated with the service. Supported the custody, delivery, and settlement of tokenized U.S. Treasury collateral in live repo and reverse repo workflows. That work showed how institutions can securely hold and mobilize tokenized treasuries as collateral. within a regulated framework. When DTCC launched the service into production late October, BitGo was among the custody providers supporting it. And just a few weeks ago, bullish successfully demonstrated a transfer of 61 million reserve bullish shares being issued. In its equity acquisition on Solana at the New York Stock Exchange using BitGo's wallet infrastructure. On our Q2 earnings call, we also demonstrated our Go Stocks product. The demo showed how tokenized equity positions could be held in regulated custody.
- Management
and used as collateral for borrowing. We see two significant opportunities. The first is broadening international access to U.S. equities and, over time, other traditional investments. Today, access is often constrained. by brokerage availability, local market infrastructure, and the complexity of moving funds across borders. Significant capital is already held in stablecoins and digital asset wallets globally. Through GoStox, we aim, over time, subject to regulatory approval. Approvals to make tokenized equities accessible through the digital asset channels investors already use. That would reduce barriers and let a broader base of investors worldwide gain exposure to U.S. equities. The second is expanding the utility of existing. Go stocks will initially be held in qualified custody at BitGo Bank and Trust. Holding equity positions on chain in regulated custody can make them easier to settle and to use as collateral, starting with financing through BitGo. Over time and subject to regulatory approvals, we expect. We expect to extend transferability so holdings can move across connected financial applications. That would give investors greater flexibility in how they manage and use their holdings. Equities are an initial focus. Over time, we believe the same infrastructure can support a broader range of traditional assets on-chain. For BitGo, this creates an opportunity to expand the assets our platform serves, reach new clients globally, and deepen our role in their financial activities as traditional and digital asset markets converge. Building on the expanded capabilities of BitGo,
- Management
global markets, we are excited to announce that the WisdomTree tokenized treasury money market digital fund is now integrated in our BitGo Mint platform. This integration enables institutional clients to seamlessly convert idle cash. into yield generating assets, which can then serve as collateral for the advanced trading and financial solutions available through global markets. Together, these offerings mark a key milestone in delivering a unified capital efficient ecosystem, allowing clients to manage custody. capture yield and execute sophisticated strategies within a single regulated environment. We are actively pursuing commercial partnerships and distribution opportunities to bring gold stocks to market and we look forward to sharing. updates as these efforts progress. With that, I'll turn the call over to Ali to review our financial results.
- AliManagement
Thank you, Chen.
With that, I'll now walk through our financial results in more detail. Total revenue for the quarter was $2.9 billion, down 34.1% sequentially and 50.9% year-over-year. Direct costs were approximately $2.8 billion, down 34.3% sequentially and 51.1%. Our gap net income was $44.1 million compared to a net loss of $19 million in Q2 and a net income of $22.7 million a year ago. The sequential improvement reflected. A $71.5 million unrealized mark-to-market gain on digital assets and lower operating expenses, particularly compensation and benefits, as well as general and administrative expenses. The Chester de Bida was a loss of $4.3 million compared to a similar loss of $4.2 million in Q2 and a profit of $13.5 million a year ago. The modest sequential decline was primarily due to lower revenue and margins during the quarter. Partially offset by lower operating expenses. Breaking those results down by offering. I'll begin with digital asset sales. Revenue was $2.7 billion, down 35.2% sequentially and 52% year.
Points compared with 17 basis points in Q2 and 20 basis points a year ago. Trading activity remained weak during the first half of the quarter amid continued low market volatility. While activity began to improve near the end of August, the recovery did not fully offset earlier weaknesses as certain larger clients shifted towards holding their positions following the recovery in digital asset prices. Profitability and margin were impacted by an unfavorable mix of higher activity in low more margin stablecoin transactions. Turning next to staking, our revenue was 68.2 million up 5.4% sequentially but down 24.1% year-over-year. Staking fees was 64.2 million resulting in a take rate of 5.9% compared to a take rate of 6% in Q2 and 9.7% a year ago. Normalized assets stay was 10.5 billion up 0.5% sequentially and up 41.1% year-over-year. Staking revenue reflected a combination of token prices, protocol reward rates, and activity of across supported assets. Higher ETH balances and prices supported revenue, while lower protocol reward rates and price declines across other tokens or headwinds. Separately, the sequential decline in take rate reflected a greater contribution from a large institution. with a lower contractual fee rate. Staking economics will continue to vary based on client, token, validator, and transaction mix. Our focus is on continuing to grow the asset base while improving the mix of higher
growth. The next component is subscriptions and services when revenue was 25.6 million, down 7.2% sequentially and 24.5% year-over-year. Core custody and wallet fee revenue remain broad. at least stable sequentially alongside modest growth in our client base. The sequential decline was primarily driven by lower non-recording engineering revenue, reflecting the timing of contractual performance milestones. Revenue from these engagements can... vary between quarters depending upon when those obligations are completed. Our focus remains on growing recurring custody and wallet revenue and deepening existing client relationships through broader adoption of Bidco services. Now to stablecoin as a service where revenue was 37.4 million down 3.8 percent sequentially and up 52.5 percent year-over-year. Stablecoin sponsor fees were 34.5 million resulting in a take rate of 7.7 percent. Compared to 8 percent in Q2 and 3.6 percent a year ago. The sequential revenue decline primarily reflected lower average reserve balances, which reduced the base on which we earn administration fees. Average daily reserve. Balances declined approximately 6 percent from Q2, reflecting the issuer's issuance and redemption activity. The sequential decline in take rate primarily reflected higher reserve interest rates and lower average reserve balances. Higher interest rates increase total reserve interest income relative to our contractual administration fees, while lower balances reduce fees earned under our tiered pricing structure. Our underlying fee arrangement remains
unchanged. Year-over-year growth was supported by higher reserve balances and fixed monthly fees from newly supported stablecoin programs. We continue to see opportunities to expand the number of stablecoin programs supported by the platform. Turning now to expenses. Expenses excluding direct costs were $56.6 million, down 5.5% sequentially and up 10.7% year-over-year. The sequential decline was driven by lower compensation and benefits as well as general and administrative expenses as a result of the cost savings implemented in the second quarter, partially offset by approximately one month of operating expenses related to our NIDIG acquisition. On the balance sheet, our position remains strong. We ended the quarter with $143.2 million of cash and cash equivalents and continued to maintain the balance sheet with no corporate-level debt other than borrowings used to fund our lending activities. In addition, our corporate treasury held $2,399 company-owned Bitcoin with a fair value of approximately $200 million as of the quarter end. As Mike mentioned, we repurchased approximately $25 million of common stock during the quarter. under our $50 million authorization, leaving approximately $25 million available for future purchases. Our capital allocation priorities remain maintaining regulatory and operating liquidity, supporting client activity, investing, and investing. Selectively in organic growth and strategic opportunities and returning capital when appropriate. With that, I will turn back to Mike for a few closing remarks.
Before we take questions, I want to close by... ...reiterating our confidence in the long-term opportunity for digital assets. We believe we are still in the early stages of institutional adoption and the development of market structure needed to support a mature digital asset economy. BitGo has been at the forefront of building that infrastructure for more than a decade, and we intend to continue leading the... ...as the industry evolves. Our focus is on expanding our capabilities, bringing on new clients and assets, driving growth across our platform, and capturing the significant opportunities we see ahead. With our expanded institutional financial services capabilities following the NIDIG acquisition and initiatives such as the...
Go Network and Go Stocks, we believe BitGo is well positioned to win a growing share of the digital asset market as it continues to advance. With that, Operator, please open the call for questions. Thank you. We will now begin the question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question...
Thank you and good afternoon.
- Operator
Your first question comes from the line of Kathy Chan with Wells Fargo. Please go ahead.
Question · Wells Fargo
Kathy ChanAnalyst · Wells FargoHey, guys.
Thanks for taking my question.
So first, just wanted to ask, I know you guys mentioned the SNS sequential decline partially due to the lower non-recurring engineering revenue. Can you just talk a little bit more about, you know, what kind of projects those are? Is it coming back in the fourth quarter? 2027 and just kind of talk us through the different components of like the recurring revenue pieces, how big that is a portion of SNS versus sort of the non-recurring, you know, other than engineering, what other parts sit in that? And then I will follow up. Thank you.
- Management
Hey, thank you, Cassie.
Question · Wells Fargo
Kathy ChanAnalyst · Wells FargoWe good?
- Management
Thank you, Cassie.
- Management
Let's see. On the non-recurring engineering, well, first off, we try to prioritize the projects that lead to recurring revenues. But going back to Q4 last year, remember last year we had a lot of new coins being built, and often when those new coins are being built, there's additional non-recurring work that happens along with that. In 2026, so far, we've seen less of that. It's going to be kind of cyclic. I guess, or I'm not sure if cyclic is the right word. It'll come and go in pockets. It's a little hard to predict exactly, but in general, I don't know. It will come and go, and then from our perspective on the engineering side, we'd much rather invest in projects which are not just non-recurring revenue anyway.
- Management
Okay, got it. That's helpful. And secondly, just obviously the client increase, you know, pretty consistent and obviously bigger in the third quarter now. Essentially, you know, obviously normalized assets on platform only grew slightly. So I guess just talk more broadly about, you know, for these new clients that you're onboarding, the profile of them, you know, small, large, how long it takes for them to start generating. Or contributing meaningful revenue to you guys. And I guess just, you know, is there any change in terms of the average revenue or contribution profit per client that you're seeing now? Obviously, the clients have been growing nicely, but, you know. The top line is growing a little slower, obviously, recognizing some of the volatile crypto market, but just how does that correlate and when can we start seeing it generate revenue? Thank you. Look, I think things are going in the right direction in spite of the numbers as they are on the trading side, you know, the entire market. saw a lot of downturn. You saw that from the announcements from other companies in the space as well on the assets under custody. Would have liked to have seen it a little bit higher than it was, but it's not terrible, I don't think. And then also what we really see is a whole bunch of new assets. It's coming into digital over the next couple of years anyway. So look, we're continuing to build, make sure that we have great products and services that can capture all of that, and we should see that turn around.
- Operator
Your next question comes from the line of Chris Brendel.
with Rosenblatt Securities. Please go ahead.
Question
?Chris BrendelAnalystHi.
Good evening.
Thanks for taking my questions.
Nice to catch up. Congrats on the solid results here. Michael, I'd like to just sort of zoom out a little bit and think about, you know, if you could... help frame some of the growth opportunities from here. Really, you know, sort of impressed by some of the conversations around custody and the GO Network, as well as NYDIG seems like an opportunity. Can you help maybe sort of put some numbers or how should we think about the revenue mix? And where the growth areas are as we spin forward to next year? Thanks. Sure. Look, we hit actually all kind of markets. And so the thing we're known for is the crypto market and DeFi market, right? Obviously, that's where we started talking about tokenized. Equities coming on chain. This is going to take a little bit of time to get going. But, you know, the crypto market is a $2 trillion total market cap, whereas the capital markets are about $70 trillion in size. Just a tremendous amount of assets coming there. And then the third sector is, you know, payments and stable coins. This is, of course, the. The entire banking arena, we think we're going to continue to see massive innovation kind of in the space over the next couple of years. So all three of these are going to be growing and we haven't even really talked much about DeFi yet. DeFi was kind of the talk a few years ago, but all that work that's been plumbed for crypto. It does come back as some of these products and services move back onto the DeFi types of networks. So BitGo is building across all of those. And then the Go network is really about, you know, like we said, the maturation of the industry. As you start to bring in traditional players, they need to know.
- Management
But they've got some separation of duties so that they can isolate their risks and understand their risks. And we think BitGo is really kind of the only company that's kind of poised with the right regulatory and technology mix on that front. So lots of great things are in the works. And then obviously we would love it if it all just grew. in one quarter. But these are things that grow over time. And we think we're well poised. Great. Thanks. And on NIDIG, is that going to be a meaningful? I didn't see if it's given us any numbers there yet. We haven't given any guidance on it. Just yet. But we are very excited about it. And a couple things happened. We've picked up a number of folks from the team. We've picked up a number of great clients. So we think that we have a much higher level of sophistication with the products that we're able to offer. and go to market with. And we plan to take that to all of the existing BitGo clients. On top of that, you know, the NIDIG team previously have been mostly focused on Bitcoin. And now we're bringing kind of all of the coins and all the other assets that we touch. And as tokenized equities and bank incomes online as well, you know, those also kind of. need into this. So expecting them to provide significant contributions in 2027. Yeah. Okay. If I can just squeeze in one more. There was somewhat of a pleasant surprise in the client growth this quarter, but it then.
- Management
Wasn't sure if that was, you know, a change in disclosure or if it's actually going to lead to additional revenue growth. Can you just break down some of the client growth numbers this quarter to help frame the modeling going forward? Thanks. We hit a little over 6,600 clients. Is that the one you're. referring to? Yeah. Yeah. I think there was a discrepancy in how it had been counted kind of before some clients that should have been in there before. There's a footnote in there somewhere about it. Overall, we think that the client count is growing healthy. on the institutional count and continues to grow. In terms of how it contributes to revenue, like each client comes on, it's like planting a seed. So, you know, one of the products that we like is our crypto as a service product. You bring on one of those clients and of course they bring on. They're retail clients. We've had, you know, continued significant growth on that all through 2026 and we think that continues. Great.
- Management
Thanks so much.
- Management
Really appreciate it.
- Operator
Your next question comes.
from the line of Ed Engel with Compass Point. Please go ahead.
Hi.
Thanks for taking my question.
One quick housekeeping one. For the NYDIG acquisition, would most of that business be reflected in the trading segment? Or are there other segments that also flows through? Can I take this one? I think most of it would be in the digital asset sales. So NYDIG, I think as we combine, capitalize on their expertise in institutional clients, they're... relationships. Most of it would be in digital asset sales. Now, they do manage certain funds, although that's a very small stream of revenue, that piece will be in the subscriptions and services, but primarily in the digital asset sales. Great. And I apologize. If I missed this, but we saw that the DTCC launched their tokenization full launch, I think it was a couple of days ago, and there's some participation by some larger traditional investment banks. Anything that... I know it's too early, but any scene you're seeing in regards to adoption or the pipeline in terms of companies that look like they're going to be onboarding this, thanks. Let's see, a couple of notes. You're probably aware. I think to this day, BITGO is still the only qualified custodian on the Canton network. We've enjoyed the relationship with DTCC. Several of their clients are on BITGO. We were part of their demo all the way back through the summer as they were getting going. Overall, on this part of the sector, there's probably about a dozen different variants of tokenized stocks that are all coming online, each with their own angle. The DTCC's variant is just one of them. BITGO's supporting all of these. So we've been working with Figure since then.
They launched last February. We're working with DTCC. As Bullish comes online with their digital transfer agent through Quinity Completing, we look forward to be working with them. We've got our GoStocks initiative. We work with the Robinhood components. So we'll hit all of the- I think this is a period of innovation. And when you see innovation, you're going to see a lot of scrambling as different products come to market with slightly different variants. And, you know, the market sorts this out over the next couple of years. Also, you know, we've got the OKX ICE. Coming online, I guess, right about now as well. So we'll be in all of these. And it's probably going to take a little bit of time. But overall, this is going to be nothing but good for BitGo's business. Great. Thanks.
- Operator
Your next question.
comes from the line of George Sutton with Craig Hallam. Please go ahead.
Thank you. There was a discussion on your focusing on higher margin activities. I'm curious. Since you're more of a taker than a maker in terms of the way the things that clients are doing from a use of your different products and services, is that not a fair take? I wouldn't necessarily characterize it that way, but go on.
Well, so the point is, how do you focus on the higher margin activities, or how do you drive clients towards the higher margin offerings? Look, I think the acquisition of IDAG is a good example. When you're getting up to the upper echelon of sophisticated traders, they are looking for not just how do they get the best price, but how do they make sure they're doing it at the risk level for which they're comfortable. Remember, these people are fiduciaries to their shareholders, they're fiduciaries to their investors, they care very well. very much about what risks exist within all of their counterparties. So, NYDIG did an exemplary job of this prior to us coming together and then we're bringing that into BICCO. as well. So, we think this helps us continue to hit kind of those folks that are really worried about how risk works. That will, of course, lead to higher margin products.
Seeing the Binance hack, which was obviously... Pretty significant. It would almost seem like an advertisement for the reason to have a self-custody and really an advertisement for what BitGo does. I'm curious if you've seen any velocity of movement since that. We haven't been able to announce them yet, but I suspect there will be significant announcements in the coming months for this. Look, to all the investors at Binance, to Binance as well, it's sad to see an event like this. Some sympathy to everybody that had to be scared. Congratulations to Binance, by the way, for getting through this and, you know, stepping up to cover their clients. But yeah, I think all of this is part of a call for market structure. We've been talking about this for well over a year. And a half, I guess, actually longer than that. But also on the self custody side, there's been some chinks in the armor on that front as people realize that some of the things that, you know, BitGo built for institutions, you know, 10 plus years ago, in other words, no single point of failure, having multiple keys, using MPC, things like that. These are suddenly becoming front and center as, you know, hacks and failures have taken more, more cycles in the press. So we think like this is just part of the natural evolution. If you had asked me 10 years ago, I probably would have said it would have happened a lot faster than it has had. I think we've known these errors and these vulnerabilities. BitGo's been defending against them obviously for quite some time and we think the rest of the industry is catching up.
Thank you.
- Operator
Your next question comes from the line of James Yarrow with Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead.
Question · Goldman Sachs
James YarrowAnalyst · Goldman SachsGood afternoon and thanks for taking the question. While clarity has... ...stalled, we have observed constructive regulatory developments more recently, including the SEC innovation exemptions. Could you talk about whether you believe regulatory reform alone meaningful... ...unlocks product innovation, the digital asset space, or do you still think that legislation is necessary?
- Management
Thanks, James.
- Management
Let's see, I don't think clarity is going to happen anytime soon, so I think we're going to have to live without... ...a legislated market structure. I think if you look at all the players in the space, those that have been leading towards market structure just on a commercial basis, I think that's what BitGo's actually been doing for almost a decade here. So whether you're talking about separating... ...putting out custody away from exchanges, whether you're talking about being able to go to your broker and get best execution through smart order router trading, these are things that BitGo has been leading on. So the industry is going to now have to demand commercially that... We mitigate the risks that can happen when you have a vertically integrated stack. And I think as you look at the new wave of players from traditional finance, they are aware of this, they expect this, and they will help us get there. So I think BitGo is really well poised, like from the regulatory standing, we have a really... strong position. We've been operating our trust bank for 10 years now, most recently under the OCC. That is the right structure. And yeah, I think we're going to see a good time over the next couple years. Very clear. Another one on the regulatory front, the SEC did put out a rule proposal permitting RIAs to self-custody customer crypto assets. Are there any impacts, potential impacts on your business? And is this an opportunity?
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I suppose it's a bit of an opportunity. Look, the RIA segment is one that has been identified by the crypto sector for a long time. It's a really federated group. RIAs have usually on average about 50 type of clients. Obviously, they vary in size. They're hard to reach. And in the past, the main reason they've been hard to reach is because the education around how do they offer crypto products has just been tough. It's like all exposure to them without any. Any real wins. So look, if that starts to change where they're ready to get into crypto in ways that they haven't been in the past, then of course, it's going to be great for a business. They're all going to come and look for BitGo. We've got the products and solutions that they need right now. That's always been true. And then in terms. of reaching them, I suspect it's probably going to be a relatively small number that go through direct crypto. I think for a lot of the benefit they're looking for on the immediate side, it's they'll go to the ETF. They'll just get get the Bitcoin ETF. But, you know, over time. As we build tokenized equities and those get into more established and regulated storage capabilities, then we'll see funds being built completely on top of digital rails and things will start to get more interesting with the RAs.
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Your next question comes from the line of Dan Dolev with Mizuho. Please go ahead.
Hey, guys.
Really solid results here. Congrats. I had a question on stablecoin reserves. I believe... It fell slightly, I think, from 4.6 to 4.4. Can you talk a little bit about the pipeline for new programs and the sensitivity to balances and rates here? And congrats again.
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Thanks, Dan.
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Well, as you probably know, our largest stablecoin client is USD1. So, you know, our balances can go up and down right now with them. Pipeline looks pretty good. We're still doing SoFi dollar. I think that it's poised for... ...significant growth over the coming years. And we've got new products, I'm sorry, new clients coming in. So stay tuned.
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Your next question comes from the line of Joseph Vaz...
with Canaccord. Please go ahead.
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?Joseph VazAnalystHey, everyone.
Thanks for taking my question.
Nice progress again here in the quarter. Maybe, Mike, could you talk how pricing is kind of...
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...story these days. You know, customer price sensitivity versus, you know, a crypto market that's doing okay but not super hot. And then, you know, pricing... ...strategy-like effective across your products and just an update on, you know, how you see, you know, your different price points across your different service offerings.
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Thanks, Joe.
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Let's see. On pricing, sometimes people try to break down one piece of what we do. Maybe they'll look at custody or maybe they'll look at trading or maybe they'll look at staking. When you look at these each individually, it gets, you know, tough. People want to, you know, compress prices. That's why we've been moving more towards bundled pricing. You know, the custody is kind of just built into it and then the trading and the stake can come along with it. Our pricing relative to retail pricing, as you probably know, is more institutional in nature. We offer substantially lower prices than what kind of the retail competitors provide. And then on the institutional side, it's that bundling that matters. So it's the fact that they can come to us and they can use. The products in a full suite that allows us to be differentiated. We just have a product that, you know, frankly, others can't match exactly at all. Let's see. On Go Network, that's an up-and-coming thing. That's a place where we feel the growth. It's actually about the network itself. As you get, you know, 6,000, you know, institutions on the network, that provides a lot of trading opportunities and settlement opportunities between those parties that simply can't be met. So we think it's a network effect that wins over time. As of today, you know, we're not, we're not expecting significant revenue from that, but over time, it'll be, it'll, it'll change.
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But that's helpful. And then just, you know, on the M&A front, obviously, big was kind of a unique asset as, as that corporate entity is kind of repositioning themselves. And, you know, it doesn't seem to me from the outside that there's kind of like a hugely like, you know, big. Hole in your product set that needs to be filled. But wondering how you're viewing M&A right now relative to the product set and then relative to the market for targets, how you're. How you're thinking about that these days? Thank you. Well, there's a lot of companies for sale, so we evaluate all of these. But, you know, there's a lot of weak companies out there. And as much as I wish that there was a better path for some of them. It's probably not a good fit for us. We continue to look for opportunities on the strategic side. Look, I think increasing our trading capabilities is the number one thing. If we did find something along that lines, that could be of interest. And then also, you know, look with the BitGo stock price where it's... That will be conservative in terms of what we do.
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Your next question comes from the line of Nathan Frankowitz with Cantor Fitzgerald. Please go ahead.
Question · Cantor Fitzgerald
Nathan FrankowitzAnalyst · Cantor FitzgeraldHey, guys.
Thanks for taking my question.
Just a quick one on BitGo Labs and the October launch of GoCubu. How should we think about the contribution in 4Q and going into 2027, specifically? On the OPEX relative to the cost reductions being stated, and what milestones would you need to see on GoCubu to keep investing? Thank you. Okay. First off, I'm really excited about BitGo Labs. I think it's fantastic. It's a place where we can start to showcase some innovation. Components of what we do and hopefully turn those into products. But remember, it's going to be like 1-2% of what we do. The vast majority of what we're spending our time on is our existing institutional client base and our existing products. So I don't want anyone to get too distracted by just that. We will not let it get to a point where it's a significant cost relative to revenues that are coming in. And then we hope that it accomplishes three things. A, we're able to hit some of our innovation components and see how those work. B, we get a better read on the market for what matters. We do a lot of test. Testing as to what users find exciting, whether they're interested in stablecoins or crypto yields or just cashback, etc. The third thing is making sure that our platform actually can fully service the needs of the types of applications that our clients build. So, I mean, as you know, we sell a full wallet platform and custody platform and crypto as a service offerings. We want to make sure that those offerings work really well, regardless of what you're trying to build. So hopefully we're able to showcase some things, innovate on some areas, turn that into some revenue, and then expand the business.
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But it's definitely very secondary to the bulk of what BitGo does.
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Got it. Thank you. That's a really helpful caller. And then just a quick one on the client growth. With the opening of the Singapore location and APAC clients trickling since the MPI license. Along with the signing of Hatchkey Cloud. What share of net revenue in clients are outside the U.S.? And does your international license let you offer products or reach segments of clients that you can't reach today in the U.S.? Well, one point of clarification. We've had... Singapore for, I think, a little over two years now. We can look up when that opened up. But let's see. What percentage is international to U.S.? Do you know? I think by the address, by the customer location for the current quarter, it was 50. 50%. Used to be 60-40, but it's shifting to more international revenue. So for Q3, it was 50-50%. Thank you. That's helpful. Thank you. And that concludes our question and answer. And ladies and gentlemen, with that, that does conclude today's conference call.
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